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Old 12-14-2009, 10:44 AM  
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Orakpo - 4 sacks on the day, 12 on the year

Told you he was no Gholston.

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Yall think Pioli would like to go back and do that pick #3 pick over?

In comparison, Tyson Jackson is currently grading out as the worst 5 technique in the national football league:

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Old 12-14-2009, 12:17 PM   #31
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Cassel still makes the dumbest decisions, he needs to correct that first off
Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.

But I agree. An offensive coordinator, a QB coach, and an offensive line might go a long way to helping with that.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:18 PM   #32
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Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.
they dont want the rookie to continue to struggle and then be destroyed mentally...its probably better he heals up and watches a bit
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:19 PM   #33
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Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.
You're honestly going to compare the play of a 21 year old rookie to that of a 27 year old, 5 year veteran?

And FWIW, Cassel now has 17 INT's and has fumbled 13 times.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:20 PM   #34
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:28 PM   #35
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Having a dominant DT sure doesn't hurt.

Sorry, but just because he was the right pick for Washington doesn't mean he would have been the right pick here.
But yeah, I'd like to have that pick back.
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Its killing me. i really wanted this guy to be drafted by us
Yeah because our horrible coaching would have killed any chance he ever had at becoming a pro-bowler.

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More to put another nail in the coffin of the supposed elite talent evaluation capabilities of Scott Pioli. But, iirc Orakpo got slammed by virtually everyone on this forum but me.
As well you should. We reached on TJ, yet several experts rated Orakpo very high while "Chiefsplanet Experts" bashed the guy. I was a big fan of his but fell into the category of those that thought we needed a big NT ala BJ Raji, which might be worse.

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Far worse to have been me. I originally loved Orakpo as a prospect, started a 500+ post thread about him, and then let the UT stigma and other people talk me out of him.

Stupid, stupid me.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:29 PM   #36
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:31 PM   #37
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You're honestly going to compare the play of a 21 year old rookie to that of a 27 year old, 5 year veteran?

And FWIW, Cassel now has 17 INT's and has fumbled 13 times.
Cassel has only lost 3 fumbles. I didn't count fumbles not lost.

Sanchez is averaging more than 1 interception per game played, and fumbles in virtually every game.

Sanchez: 17INT + 3 fumb lost = 20 Turnovers
Cassel: 13 INT + 3 Fumb lost = 16 Turnovers
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:33 PM   #38
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Orakpo Tyler Dorsey Hali

That is a hell of a front four if you ask me.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:33 PM   #39
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That's nice at least Sanchez is a young player with upside our guy should be entering his prime.

If Sanchez is still the same player in 5 years then it's the same...
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:35 PM   #40
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We should have taken Heyward-Bey.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:35 PM   #41
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We should have taken Heyward-Bey.
As of today our pick is as bad as that pick.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:37 PM   #42
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Cassel has only lost 3 fumbles. I didn't count fumbles not lost.

Sanchez is averaging more than 1 interception per game played, and fumbles in virtually every game.

Sanchez: 17INT + 3 fumb lost = 20 Turnovers
Cassel: 13 INT + 3 Fumb lost = 16 Turnovers
Wow what a major difference.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:40 PM   #43
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Far worse to have been me. I originally loved Orakpo as a prospect, started a 500+ post thread about him, and then let the UT stigma and other people talk me out of him.

Stupid, stupid me.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:41 PM   #44
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Wow what a major difference.
Huge.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:42 PM   #45
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You're honestly going to compare the play of a 21 year old rookie to that of a 27 year old, 5 year veteran?

And FWIW, Cassel now has 17 INT's and has fumbled 13 times.
Cassel basically is a sophomore quarterback. I don't care how much practice you get, you have to be able to do it in games. And w/ that said - he never started any games until last year, since he was 18. He is going to have a learning curve similar to Sanchez.
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