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Old 12-14-2009, 10:44 AM  
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Orakpo - 4 sacks on the day, 12 on the year

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Yall think Pioli would like to go back and do that pick #3 pick over?

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Old 12-14-2009, 12:43 PM   #46
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Cassel basically is a sophomore quarterback. I don't care how much practice you get, you have to be able to do it in games. And w/ that said - he never started any games until last year, since he was 18. He is going to have a learning curve similar to Sanchez.
And this is why trading for him was stupid as ****. But no we had a huge contingent of posters that said he was experienced, better than a rookie etc etc etc.

How things change that reality has hit.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:44 PM   #47
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Cassel has only lost 3 fumbles. I didn't count fumbles not lost.

Sanchez is averaging more than 1 interception per game played, and fumbles in virtually every game.

Sanchez: 17INT + 3 fumb lost = 20 Turnovers
Cassel: 13 INT + 3 Fumb lost = 16 Turnovers
Interesting.

Cassel is averaging more than 1 INT per game played (13 INT in 12 games) and fumbles in virtually every game. (13 fumbles in 12 games)

Both of them are playing like rookies.

The problem is, one of them is a 27 year old, 5th year veteran.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:46 PM   #48
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Cassel basically is a sophomore quarterback. I don't care how much practice you get, you have to be able to do it in games. And w/ that said - he never started any games until last year, since he was 18. He is going to have a learning curve similar to Sanchez.
Yet the entire offseason, we were subjected to the "well, he won't make rookie mistakes" or "he has more experience, so he's a better fit" comments.

Funny how those folks have changed their tune after 12 games.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:47 PM   #49
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Wow what a major difference.
The conversation started with "Oh, we could have had Sanchez." The original point was "He's not any better than Cassel so far". Then someone was outraged that I would "seriously" compare two players with comparable statistics.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:47 PM   #50
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Yet the entire offseason, we were subjected to the "well, he won't make rookie mistakes" or "he has more experience, so he's a better fit" comments.

Funny how those folks have changed their tune after 12 games.
Now he just "needs time" and specifically remember making the comment that I better never see that phrase used in reference to him and everyone agreed yet here it is...

I'm just so ridiculously tired of seeing people that so badly want a player to be good they'll skew what reality is.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:47 PM   #51
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Interesting.

Cassel is averaging more than 1 INT per game played (13 INT in 12 games) and fumbles in virtually every game. (13 fumbles in 12 games)

Both of them are playing like rookies.

The problem is, one of them is a 27 year old, 5th year veteran.
True; if the veteran had a better degree of talent around him that Sanchez does, I'm sure he would be outperforming him.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:48 PM   #52
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True; if the veteran had a better degree of talent around him that Sanchez does, I'm sure he would be outperforming him.
Keep defending Cassel, it's not easy to make a shitty asshole look pretty but you're trying.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:48 PM   #53
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The conversation started with "Oh, we could have had Sanchez." The original point was "He's not any better than Cassel so far". Then someone was outraged that I would "seriously" compare two players with comparable statistics.
Not outraged at all.

I feel sorry for you.

If you can't see the difference between a rookie with upside making rookie mistakes, and a 27 year old, 5th year veteran making the same mistakes, I can't do much for you.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:50 PM   #54
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Not outraged at all.

I feel sorry for you.

If you can't see the difference between a rookie with upside making rookie mistakes, and a 27 year old, 5th year veteran making the same mistakes, I can't do much for you.
It's the nature of our fan base man, have you ever talked to a general Chiefs fan or really football fan in general, your brain will explode.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:52 PM   #55
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Not outraged at all.

I feel sorry for you.
I feel far more sorry for you. It's obvious there are some anger issues in your life based on the attitude you consistently display here.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:53 PM   #56
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True; if the veteran had a better degree of talent around him that Sanchez does, I'm sure he would be outperforming him.
How does that explain Stafford's numbers in relation to Cassel's?

Amazing that people go out of their way to defend a player who's stats are almost identical to those of ROOKIE QB'S.
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LOL it's funny considering Matt Stafford is 6 years younger than Cassel is, but hey it's fine for Cassel to be in the same spot right?
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:54 PM   #58
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I feel far more sorry for you. It's obvious there are some anger issues in your life based on the attitude you consistently display here.
You can read anger through a monitor?

Actually, this place is my one stop shop for Chiefs news and general comedy.

Laughing at people like you is much more enjoyable that watching Comedy Central.
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LOL it's funny considering Matt Stafford is 6 years younger than Cassel is, but hey it's fine for Cassel to be in the same spot right?
To me, Stafford is superior to Cassel and Sanchez. He reminds me of Elway for some reason.
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:58 PM   #60
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You can read anger through a monitor?

Actually, this place is my one stop shop for Chiefs news and general comedy.

Laughing at people like you is much more enjoyable that watching Comedy Central.
I did not intend to be derisive. For someone to lash out and berate others on the internet all day, it seems likely there is another arena of life where they are dealing with a lot of frustration they can't express. I have been there and I understand it.
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