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Old 01-27-2010, 11:12 AM  
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:45 PM   #211
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Apple doesnít want to sell devices that can do everything; they want to find the best form factor to consume some types of digital content, and then focus on them. If you look at it, you can do pretty much everything on your personal computer; by that philosophy, you donít need anything else besides a laptop. And yet, youíve now got smartphones and e-readers selling very well. Could it be that one powerful device is not as good as several less powerful, but more focused ones?
Your comparison is a loose grab at logic at best. Yes you can do all of these on your home PC or laptop. But the difference between a smartphone/iPhone and a laptop is the extreme portability. You can take your phone anywhere, how many people you see at the club sitting on their cell phone? How many do you see sitting on a laptop.

I get what you are saying, but this iPad is not one of Apple's better moves. If they wanted to make an e-reader, why market it as a tablet.
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:54 PM   #212
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So you're saying that its ok to only let apple apps multi task. Cool.
Point to where I said this. I stated a fact: Apple apps can multitask, therefore it has multitasking capability.

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and you're syaing that this thing will cost less than an iphone. Cool
Point to where I or anyone said that? The initial starting price is $499. There's nothing but fact there.

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Apple, fanboi's will be fanbois i guess.
If you consider me to be a fanboi, I hate to see what you think of the people more rabid than I.

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I didn't make this up, these are the guys at gizmado saying this. Which I linked the article.
Doesn't mean they're wrong.

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If what IJH is saying is true, it's better than no multitasking, but honestly...
What I am saying IS True. It's true now and has been for a long while.

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"Thow shalt only use Mac software."
Again, not true. Plenty of apps available. Of course, multitasking is probably what you're referring to but nonetheless it's misleading.

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Is a pretty big hit to the device. Then again, Mac people might think this is great since Mac software is the greatest in the universe ever.
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They could have knocked it out of the park with this device and completely taken over the tablet market instead, its a larger version of an iTouch. BFD.
Actually, I thought the same thing. Until I read some articles and commentary from people who had hands on. Rick's post was pretty spot on with what I heard. You have to play with it to really have any say on it. It's screaming fast.

There really isn't a tablet market right now. There have been tablets but no one really has done anything worth while in the market. Best thing so far is Courier by MS but as always it's vaporware.

I think you underestimate the power of a large iPod Touch. It's not for me, at least right now. I'll wait for a couple revisions before buying. A) the software will mature B) Apple always increases specs and features without raising price and C) if you look at the iPod generations they got increasing features that made upgrading look good, I bet this follows suit.
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:58 PM   #213
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Also, Apple is proving that multitasking (except in media sectors like music or social networking like twitter) is an old concept in need of replacement. When you think about it, your iPhone/Touch apps save where you were in the app and what you were doing. Closing and reopening is just like swiping to an open app.

It wasn't until someone pointed that out to me that it clicked. Read here: http://cloud-factory.com/blog/2010/1...-the-ipad.html
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:59 PM   #214
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Thanks.

Kindle 2, IIRC, now has PDF support but that was the only thing different on that chart.

I'm with you, though, if I could see the Asus I could make up my mind. But then if I wait for Asus I'll see something else and wait and keep waiting. I'm thinking I should just go with it. Use it for a year or two and then survey the field.

Are you siding more nook or more Kindle 2 at the moment?
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:00 PM   #215
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After reading some commentary online from many non-Apple-fanbois, I think this device is going to be a hit. It's more revolutionary than it seems at first blush.

I think given 2-3 revisions, it'll be exactly what I need.
I think you're right. I like the idea of traveling with an IPad with 3G capability, GPS etc weighing only 1.5lbs versus a typical DELL Laptop that weighs 8lbs. It makes a big difference.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:02 PM   #216
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I think you're right. I like the idea of traveling with an IPad with 3G capability, GPS etc weighing only 1.5lbs versus a typical DELL Laptop that weighs 8lbs. It makes a big difference.
Imagine if they snuck a GPS in there. Phew, I don't know what I'd do...
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:06 PM   #217
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Imagine if they snuck a GPS in there. Phew, I don't know what I'd do...
Just a few tweaks and I'd be sold,but as is I'll have to pass.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:06 PM   #218
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Imagine if they snuck a GPS in there. Phew, I don't know what I'd do...
I think the top end model has GPS like the I-Phone
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:07 PM   #219
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I would of marketed it as the ITab

Just to avoid the jokes
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:10 PM   #220
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Just a few tweaks and I'd be sold,but as is I'll have to pass.
That's where I'm at. And if fails thus far in the e-reader market which is what I needed at the moment.

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I think the top end model has GPS like the I-Phone
Technically any of them with 3G has a AGPS in it. It isn't Garmin-like GPS but it gets the job done (aka iPhone).

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I would of marketed it as the ITab

Just to avoid the jokes
I was hoping for Apple Canvas.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:15 PM   #221
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Thanks.

Kindle 2, IIRC, now has PDF support but that was the only thing different on that chart.

I'm with you, though, if I could see the Asus I could make up my mind. But then if I wait for Asus I'll see something else and wait and keep waiting. I'm thinking I should just go with it. Use it for a year or two and then survey the field.

Are you siding more nook or more Kindle 2 at the moment?
actually the Nook also has WiFi,memory expansion and a replaceable battery over the Kindle line. If the battery goes bad you can fix it with the Nook.

Nook also "Lends" out books compared to DRM with the kindle.


Kindle has browser capability and text to speech. I don't care about the text to speech but even the limited/throttled browsing of the kindle is appealing.

but .... i hear that even after the latest firmware the Nook is still kind of sluggish with it's clicks and refreshing.


dammit i wish i could squish the 2 together and get the best of both.


i'm leaning slightly to the Kindle because of the responsiveness but in reality i'm going to do my best to wait until April to see the Asus.

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Old 01-28-2010, 05:15 PM   #222
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If the iPad had preceded the iPhone, people would be shitting themselves over both. "Oh my God the made the iPad SMALLER with a PHONE!?"
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I was hoping for Apple Canvas.
They don't want you to create on it...

They want you to consume. And people will...like nuts.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:17 PM   #224
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actually the Nook also has WiFi and memory expansion and a replaceable battery over the Kindle line. If the battery goes bad you can fix it with the Nook.

Nook also "Lends" out books compared to DRM hell with the kindle.


Kindle has browser capability and text to speech. I don't care about the text to speech but even the limited/throttled browsing of the kindle is appealing.

but .... i hear that even after the latest firmware the Nook is still kind of sluggish with it's clicks and refreshing.


dammit i wish i could squish the 2 together and get the best of both.


i'm leaning slightly to the Kindle because of the responsiveness but in reality i'm going to do my best to wait until April to see the Asus.
Yeah, I think we're in the same boat.

I reread my post. I didn't mean the only thing the nook had that the Kindle didn't I just meant the only thing B&N could be perceived about being misleading. Of course, it was only after they made the chart that PDF support was fixed. So they just haven't updated it.

I'm going to have to do some digging tomorrow about the Asus.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:18 PM   #225
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If the iPad had preceded the iPhone, people would be shitting themselves over both. "Oh my God the made the iPad SMALLER with a PHONE!?"
Yes. And it reminds me of Louis CK. Everything's amazing, no one's happy.

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They want you to consume. And people will...like nuts.
True, but at least it's original. iPad is still a shitty name.
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