Jimmy Clausen Scouting Report - Page 2

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-09-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Its probably debatable. Splitting hairs imo.

As I said, having familiarity with the scheme and coach is a HUGE selling point.

We wouldnt be starting from scratch with Jimmy where we would have been with Sanchez.

Sanchez/Mauluga/Berry is an exceptional combination and a superbowl foundation, hopefully we dont miss the boat again...

Hopwfully it will look like Clausen/Spikes/Cam Thomas

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-09-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Its probably debatable. Splitting hairs imo.

As I said, having familiarity with the scheme and coach is a HUGE selling point.

We wouldnt be starting from scratch with Jimmy where we would have been with Sanchez.

Sanchez/Mauluga/Berry is an exceptional combination and a superbowl foundation, hopefully we dont miss the boat again...

I don't think so. I think Sanchez goes to St. Louis in a heartbeat if he's coming out this year.

**BossChief** · 03-09-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I don't think so. I think Sanchez goes to St. Louis in a heartbeat if he's coming out this year.

Well, the debatable part I was talking about is injuries, dealing with adversity of having to do more because of the loss of so many defenders, nitpickers etc.

He would likely be the top prospect, but you never know 100% till it happens.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-09-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Well, the debatable part I was talking about is injuries, dealing with adversity of having to do more because of the loss of so many defenders, nitpickers etc.

He would likely be the top prospect, but you never know 100% till it happens.

It's totally incomparable, but I was huge on Sanchez early last year. The upside alone puts him head and shoulders above IMO. Bradford was smart not coming out last year if he actually gets picked first.

Ralphy Boy · 03-13-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

It's totally incomparable, but I was huge on Sanchez early last year. The upside alone puts him head and shoulders above IMO. Bradford was smart not coming out last year if he actually gets picked first.

That's a big "if". I think he could have just as easily gone ahead of Stafford last year. His injury early this season was huge and could have cost him a fortune. He should consider himself very lucky to still be in consideration for the #1 pick this year.

Saccopoo · 03-09-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Well, the debatable part I was talking about is injuries, dealing with adversity of having to do more because of the loss of so many defenders, nitpickers etc.

He would likely be the top prospect, but you never know 100% till it happens.

Jesus dude, don't give in to these guys. Stand your ground. Clausen is the ****ing bomb! Sanchez couldn't hold his jock strap and you know it. It's why he's the top qb in this draft and why he'd be the top pick over Sanchez, who was a product of the system versus being an unmitigated stud that had no one around him and that's why his standout junior season resulted in a 6-6 record (that closed out with four straight losses). No defense and no running game. (Although it's hard to have a running game when you are throwing the ball 40 plays a game.)

And don't worry about the mobility issue with Clausen. Over the course of his college career he carried the ball 175 times for a grand total of -355 yards. (Yep, that's a negative 355 yards.) In his standout junior season he managed to gain positive yardage only twice, with each of those resulting in ONE yard. 2 yards gained to 97 yards lost on his 57 carries in 2009. But you can put that on a horrible offensive line (that will see two players get drafted in Sam Young and Eric Olsen - but horrible nonetheless), not on Jimmy Clausen.

**** no Sanchez wouldn't have beat out Clausen as the top pick in this draft. Stand your ground like a man!

**BossChief** · 03-09-2010, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Jesus dude, don't give in to these guys. Stand your ground. Clausen is the ****ing bomb! Sanchez couldn't hold his jock strap and you know it. It's why he's the top qb in this draft and why he'd be the top pick over Sanchez, who was a product of the system versus being an unmitigated stud that had no one around him and that's why his standout junior season resulted in a 6-6 record (that closed out with four straight losses). No defense and no running game. (Although it's hard to have a running game when you are throwing the ball 40 plays a game.)

And don't worry about the mobility issue with Clausen. Over the course of his college career he carried the ball 175 times for a grand total of -355 yards. (Yep, that's a negative 355 yards.) In his standout junior season he managed to gain positive yardage only twice, with each of those resulting in ONE yard. 2 yards gained to 97 yards lost on his 57 carries in 2009. But you can put that on a horrible offensive line (that will see two players get drafted in Sam Young and Eric Olsen - but horrible nonetheless), not on Jimmy Clausen.

**** no Sanchez wouldn't have beat out Clausen as the top pick in this draft. Stand your ground like a man!

are you drunk?

**Kyle DeLexus** · 03-09-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Jesus dude, don't give in to these guys. Stand your ground. Clausen is the ****ing bomb! Sanchez couldn't hold his jock strap and you know it. It's why he's the top qb in this draft and why he'd be the top pick over Sanchez, who was a product of the system versus being an unmitigated stud that had no one around him and that's why his standout junior season resulted in a 6-6 record (that closed out with four straight losses). No defense and no running game. (Although it's hard to have a running game when you are throwing the ball 40 plays a game.)

And don't worry about the mobility issue with Clausen. Over the course of his college career he carried the ball 175 times for a grand total of -355 yards. (Yep, that's a negative 355 yards.) In his standout junior season he managed to gain positive yardage only twice, with each of those resulting in ONE yard. 2 yards gained to 97 yards lost on his 57 carries in 2009. But you can put that on a horrible offensive line (that will see two players get drafted in Sam Young and Eric Olsen - but horrible nonetheless), not on Jimmy Clausen.

**** no Sanchez wouldn't have beat out Clausen as the top pick in this draft. Stand your ground like a man!

Holy shit your right we should draft ****ing Tim Tebow, he's got mobility.

**the Talking Can** · 03-09-2010, 08:23 PM

you can't ask for more on paper....

want

**DeezNutz** · 03-09-2010, 08:40 PM

If the Weis hire means we finally get to draft and develop a legit franchise QB, it will be the single greatest coaching acquisition in the last 27 years, hands down.

**BossChief** · 03-09-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If the Weis hire means we finally get to draft and develop a legit franchise QB, it will be the single greatest coaching acquisition in the last 27 years, hands down.

agree 100%

To me, it would be the most exciting draft pick of all time!

I would make a serious investment in season tickets because I would have a real feel that I could make serious long term profit on them.

KCrockaholic · 03-10-2010, 12:06 AM

Cutler has been his most common comparison. I have to agree with that. If Cutler wasn't a dumbass he would be looking like Aaron Rodgers right now. Instead, he looks like Jeff George.

I don't see Clausen as a douchebag to the extent of Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, or Cutler. But, I think his immaturity will hinder his performance during the first couple years of his career. I've said many times, that I don't care that he played in a pro-style offense. He is not an NFL ready QB. It will take him until 2012 or 13 to fully mature and become solid. He is going to struggle during the early part of his career.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-10-2010, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Cutler has been his most common comparison. I have to agree with that. If Cutler wasn't a dumbass he would be looking like Aaron Rodgers right now. Instead, he looks like Jeff George.

I don't see Clausen as a douchebag to the extent of Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, or Cutler. But, I think his immaturity will hinder his performance during the first couple years of his career. I've said many times, that I don't care that he played in a pro-style offense. He is not an NFL ready QB. It will take him until 2012 or 13 to fully mature and become solid. He is going to struggle during the early part of his career.

So, basically he will be every non-Dan Marino QB, ever.

KCrockaholic · 03-10-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So, basically he will be every non-Dan Marino QB, ever.

Well we see guys like Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez, or Big Ben step in and be a decent QB at an early stage of their career, I don't think Clausen is going to be close to that. That's not taking away what he can be in his prime, but I can just picture all the Clausen lovers worried to death, that he is a bust after having a terrible rookie season if he starts. While the anti-Clausen people are saying "I told you so."

People are going to judge Clausen to quickly, and I fully expect Sam Bradford to have a better 1st season than Clausen.

I see Clausen as a developmental guy, and the reason he will go as the #2 QB in the draft is because he has the tools to work with, moreso than the other QB's in this draft that are also developmental guys.

BigCatDaddy · 03-10-2010, 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=kcrockaholic4life;6591777]Well we see guys like Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez, or Big Ben step in and be a decent QB at an early stage of their career I don't think Clausen is going to be close to that. That's not taking away what he can be in his prime, but I can just picture all the Clausen lovers worried to death, that he is a bust after having a terrible rookie season if he starts. While the anti-Clausen people are saying "I told you so."

What????? How can you compare Mark Sanchez's rookie numbers with that of Matt Ryan and Bens?????? You watch football yes?

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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3292900	Cutler has been his most common comparison. I have to agree with that. If Cutler wasn't a dumbass he would be looking like Aaron Rodgers right now. Instead, he looks like Jeff George. I don't see Clausen as a douchebag to the extent of Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, or Cutler. But, I think his immaturity will hinder his performance during the first couple years of his career. I've said many times, that I don't care that he played in a pro-style offense. He is not an NFL ready QB. It will take him until 2012 or 13 to fully mature and become solid. He is going to struggle during the early part of his career.
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BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $-1840878	[QUOTE=kcrockaholic4life;6591777]Well we see guys like Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez, or Big Ben step in and be a decent QB at an early stage of their career I don't think Clausen is going to be close to that. That's not taking away what he can be in his prime, but I can just picture all the Clausen lovers worried to death, that he is a bust after having a terrible rookie season if he starts. While the anti-Clausen people are saying "I told you so." What????? How can you compare Mark Sanchez's rookie numbers with that of Matt Ryan and Bens?????? You watch football yes?
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