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Old 06-23-2010, 09:11 PM  
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Kids Fighting

There is a school and park across the street I let my son hang out with his friends, I can look out my front window and see everything.

My son comes running in yelling, "Mom, Micheal is getting beat up by two boys!!" I didn't know I could still run so fast, and damn, stickers do not feel good in bare feet. Seeing and hearing me come the kids disperse. Two other adults that live by the park were heading to the scene at the same time I was, coming from the opposite side of the park. I am guessing since one of the other adults were male I was the safe choice to head to. Yeah, right!! I ask the 17 yr old (not knowing at the time he was 17) what the **** he is doing ganging up a kid. He started running his mouth, told him to get his ass home because I am about to kick his ass.

Micheal is only twelve, but looks like an eighteen yr old, this boy is nearly six feet tall already. The fight was caused by Micheal asking the seventeen yr olds little brother where his bike was that he stole, the little brother went and got his seventeen yr old brother, they chased Micheal down on their bikes, leaving my son in the dust.

We called Micheal's mother, the seventeen yr old offered up his address to me because the police had already been to his home over the stolen bike. All I can think right now, is what if it were my son these two boys were ganging up on. A kid that was a witness claimed the seventeen yr old was a gang member. I'm lost, I don't know if I should let my son go to the park any more.
This is the third fight I have broken up since summer started.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:51 AM   #61
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You should have shouted "SWEEP THE LEG JOHNNY!!"


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Old 06-24-2010, 07:34 AM   #62
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Yea, um, you need to teach your son there is no such thing as a fair fight. If he walks around with some made up code in his head he's going to get hurt. IF it comes to a fight you should teach your son that his primary goal should be to get out of the situation without getting hurt.
And the best way to learn to fight dirty is to NOT step in. Let him get his ass stomped. At some point he will go down and come up with a razor.
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:47 AM   #63
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Why is everyone's anwer to violence, a measure of an increased violent action?

I am more worried that we are literally, at a pace faster than i care to acknowledge, moving back to the Old West Days where a man dies because another has a headache.

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Old 06-24-2010, 07:50 AM   #64
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:00 AM   #65
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:06 AM   #66
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He is going to learn how to fight, I have taught him some things, but needs some real training.

He wants to box, what are your thoughts??
My biggest advice is to tell him to try to avoid fighting. Avoid places where trouble like this is prone to happen. Avoid fighting when possible.

My 2nd best advice is tell him to NEVER stand in front of someone and tell them to punch him. Avoid the trouble all together, but if he can't, swing first and swing to win.

I suppose boxing or some martial arts would be helpful, but trying to be a pugilist in a street fight, especially involving 2 people probably won't turn out very good for him. It's probably good for a kid to take some form of instructed defense class though.

I think if you want to really give him a fighting chance to defend himself in those situations, you need to have the roughest fella you know show him some things. He should learn about stomping the outside half of the foot(small bones), raking shins with his foot from the knee down, pressure points, liver & Sternum punches, throat chops and any number of other things.


But I'm just a little pussy from Iowa, so you probably shouldn't take any of this seriously.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:06 AM   #67
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Karate and guns? How about, if it's that bad... move.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:10 AM   #68
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It is time your boy found a new friend.Most of the people with alligator mouths have a canary a.$.It is the quite ones that I worry about. Looking that your are a preacher's wife there are christian schools of martial arts. Having 3 boys, a first aid kit that is in constant use, and a frequent visitors card at the ER isolate your boy for a little bit and prepare him for war.
As far as a gun is concerned if I need to draw down someone is going to be shot. Guns aren't toys and shouldn't be used to intimidate people.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:11 AM   #69
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THIS.

Although you should probably step up the artillery a wee bit. Go find the nearest black person that looks like a gangbanger and ask him where you can get a "choppa". He'll know what you're talking about and it should be smooth sailing from there on out..
A choppa? WTF? This isn't the predator chasing her son, its a damn kid.

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Old 06-24-2010, 08:12 AM   #70
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Actually, if he's friends with a 6' tall 12 year old, that is fighting high school kids.....it might turn out to be a very good friend to have.



The good news is, maybe your son learned something about this kind of stuff at an early age...without having to take the beating.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:14 AM   #71
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My biggest advice is to tell him to try to avoid fighting. Avoid places where trouble like this is prone to happen. Avoid fighting when possible.

My 2nd best advice is tell him to NEVER stand in front of someone and tell them to punch him. Avoid the trouble all together, but if he can't, swing first and swing to win.

I suppose boxing or some martial arts would be helpful, but trying to be a pugilist in a street fight, especially involving 2 people probably won't turn out very good for him. It's probably good for a kid to take some form of instructed defense class though.

I think if you want to really give him a fighting chance to defend himself in those situations, you need to have the roughest fella you know show him some things. He should learn about stomping the outside half of the foot(small bones), raking shins with his foot from the knee down, pressure points, liver & Sternum punches, throat chops and any number of other things.


But I'm just a little pussy from Iowa, so you probably shouldn't take any of this seriously.
and then tell him there is always someone tougher. Teach him that its ok to defend himself but not ok to start shit.
Its better to talk softly and carry a big stick...that said, AIM FOR THE GROIN JOHNNY!!!!!

im 35 and cant close either hand all the way because ive jacked em up so bad tryin to knock mens brains out. im lucky i didnt get what some of my bros got on the street. just sayin.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:18 AM   #72
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He should learn about stomping the outside half of the foot(small bones), raking shins with his foot from the knee down, pressure points, liver & Sternum punches, throat chops and any number of other things.
I don't want to fight you now. I like my life of peace.
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Get him a Mortar set for the backyard. That way he can still play with his friends in the park in the comfort of your property.

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Old 06-24-2010, 08:30 AM   #74
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Karate and guns? How about, if it's that bad... move.
I do not condone the use of weapons, but I do want my son to be capable of defending himself.

Being a single mother of three, moving isn't really an option at the moment. I haven't had to deal with violence and fighting before now.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:34 AM   #75
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and then tell him there is always someone tougher. Teach him that its ok to defend himself but not ok to start shit.
Its better to talk softly and carry a big stick...that said, AIM FOR THE GROIN JOHNNY!!!!!

im 35 and cant close either hand all the way because ive jacked em up so bad tryin to knock mens brains out. im lucky i didnt get what some of my bros got on the street. just sayin.
I don't want Nathan to be a fighter, and I have told him there is always someone bigger and meaner. Someone mentioned hitting first, that is a big no no for me. Never hit first, just make sure you hit harder.

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Actually, if he's friends with a 6' tall 12 year old, that is fighting high school kids.....it might turn out to be a very good friend to have.



The good news is, maybe your son learned something about this kind of stuff at an early age...without having to take the beating.
Sadly, the 12 yr old just took the beating and didn't fight back. Kudos to Micheal for standing up for him self regarding his stolen bike though.
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