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Old 07-26-2010, 12:51 AM  
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Season 4 premiered tonight. I would have bumped the season three thread but I titled it "season 3," which no longer seems appropriate.

Who saw it? It was a stupendous hour of television. All sorts of shit has happened in the eleven months that have passed (in-story) between the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Price and the beginning of season 4. The premeir was stepped in the juices of the sexual revolution. It also had a lot to say about the increasing role of the media in the success or failure of things. It was great to see Don fail a little bit, and it was exciting to consider the future implications at the end of Don crafting a public/media persona that is completely unlike his actual personality.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:31 PM   #61
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If a show is going to keep my interest, it had better not become predictable, which is exactly how I've felt about this season, save one episode.

What made this series interesting in past seasons is that they were simultaneously introducing modern day audiences to home and office life in 1960's Manhattan, while slowing unraveling the tale of Dick Whitman/Don Draper.

I feel that the show's been on autopilot this year and it certainly hasn't been "Must See" TV, as it was in the past.
It doesn't feel any different to me than the early part of the show's thrid season did. It is must-see TV for me because of its characters and strength of writing. I don't need to be "surprised" all the time; somethings have to logically happen. And I am also fine with a very slow pace. Few seasons of TV were slower-paced w/ less action that season 3 of Breaking Bad. Few seasons of TV have been as good as season 3 of Breaking Bad.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:38 PM   #62
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It doesn't feel any different to me than the early part of the show's thrid season did. It is must-see TV for me because of its characters and strength of writing. I don't need to be "surprised" all the time; somethings have to logically happen. And I am also fine with a very slow pace. Few seasons of TV were slower-paced w/ less action that season 3 of Breaking Bad. Few seasons of TV have been as good as season 3 of Breaking Bad.
That's cool, Man. I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just sharing my thoughts, which I understand have been contrary to the members participating in this thread.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:39 PM   #63
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That's cool, Man. I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just sharing my thoughts, which I understand have been contrary to the members participating in this thread.
I know. That's why I wasn't all "YOU'RE WRONG" in my post. Just giving my thoughts back. Discussion, I think they call it.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:09 PM   #64
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I know. That's why I wasn't all "YOU'RE WRONG" in my post. Just giving my thoughts back. Discussion, I think they call it.
Thanks.

I'll be sending you a coupon for a Taco Bell Cantina taco in appreciation of your willingness to discuss.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:17 PM   #65
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Thanks.

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Old 08-18-2010, 10:34 PM   #66
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WOW factor is for impatient audience members.
I think there's something to be said for a show delivering a particular amount of WOW for a number of seasons and then starting a new season with decidedly less WOW. I don't think it's necessarily impatient to feel like something's a little off; it's more about adjusting to your expectations being subverted somewhat.

I did not believe the start of Breaking Bad season 3 was any lower QUALITY than the previous seasons, but it didn't quite have me obsessing over immediately seeing the next episode the way the previous seasons did. When I adjusted expectations, my appreciation for the material caught up with its quality.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:37 PM   #67
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In the case of Mad Men, however, I think it's been classic Mad Men all the way this season.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:20 PM   #68
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Amazing episode last night! It was much closer to what I'd expected for the entire season. Hopefully, this trend will continue.
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:55 PM   #69
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Amazing episode last night! It was much closer to what I'd expected for the entire season. Hopefully, this trend will continue.
As you know some people are quite fond of surprises.
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:14 PM   #70
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I've been rewatching season 1. There seems to be a definite intention amongst the season 4 writers to touch on season 1 plot points. Therapy, Betty acting like a child, Glenn, Pete's arc, etc.
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Old 08-24-2010, 06:31 AM   #71
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As you know some people are quite fond of surprises.
wellll then don't click on the thread until you are caught up. All of these threads have always allowed current and past talk freely. Its only future spoilers that need spoiler tags.
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:43 PM   #73
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wellll then don't click on the thread until you are caught up. All of these threads have always allowed current and past talk freely. Its only future spoilers that need spoiler tags.
Psst, that was a Roger Sterling line from the episode [when he crashed the Honda meeting, referring to him being surprised that the meeting was going on, and snarking the Japanese [ie, Pearl Harbor] potential clients]. I used it because Dane seemed pleasantly surprised by the quality of the episode.

Plus, even if it looked like I was complaining, I don't know how saying an episode is 'amazing' actually would be a spoiler.

You're right though, humor is so much better when thoroughly explained.
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Jon Hamm and Elizabeth Moss just locked up Emmys for next year (note that Breaking Bad won't be eligible for next year's Emmy's since season 4 won't begin until June or July for some reason). LOCKED UP. That was probably a top 3 episode in the history of Mad Men. Incredible.
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