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Old 11-23-2010, 10:31 AM   #226
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With the way we play (with our balls on fire), I don't think discipline is EVER going to be a hallmark of any Frank Martin coached team. He talks a lot about it, but really, have we ever been that disciplined in the 3+ yrs he's be HC at KSU? What we are is a high energy, pressure D, aggressive rebounding, and hope to get a second shot on the boards team. The highs will be high, and the lows will be head scratching. I do believe though, that this is probably the best group of shooting guards we've had since Frank's been here. So, it doesn't surprise me that we are launching, what appears to be, an inordinate amount of 3's.
As long as we are grabbing rebounds on those misses, then its all good for me.

The fact that Mr. Mac is our most consistent rebounder is both impressive and disheartening at the same time. He's balling like Rodman; but with Judge, Kelly*, JHR, Asparilla, and Samuels, Mac should be 4th on that list.

Our bigs need to continue to increase their reb. stats by being more aggressive under the rim. We need to win those 50/50's. We need to win those 25/75's also.

We did a great job of it last night, and I think Frank will have them in full beast mode come conference play.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:35 AM   #227
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:35 AM   #228
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:53 AM   #229
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With the way we play (with our balls on fire), I don't think discipline is EVER going to be a hallmark of any Frank Martin coached team. He talks a lot about it, but really, have we ever been that disciplined in the 3+ yrs he's be HC at KSU? What we are is a high energy, pressure D, aggressive rebounding, and hope to get a second shot on the boards team. The highs will be high, and the lows will be head scratching. I do believe though, that this is probably the best group of shooting guards we've had since Frank's been here. So, it doesn't surprise me that we are launching, what appears to be, an inordinate amount of 3's.
With Jake, McGruder, Spradling, Irving/Russell (new found confidence shooting)....I think this is simply a better shooting team than any we've seen recently at KSU. Therefore, they're going to shoot more and make more. It should help open things up inside as time goes on and teams scout accordingly.

If we can keep Plumlees off the glass and contain Singler, I like out chances. I'll be interested to see if the KSU pressure d affects Duke and/or turns into a foul fest. Either way, it gives the Cats a great chance to see where they are, with two top 25 wins already in their pocket.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:58 AM   #230
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Great game by KSU last night......I'm going to the KSU/Duke game tonight with the old man. Hope KSU wins....I ****ing hate Duke basketball, always have and always will, but I've never seen them play live so I'm gonna go. I like college basketball a lot and if I ever have the chance to see a good team (outside of Big12) play, I'm going to do so. Gonna DVR the KU and MU games tonight.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:59 AM   #231
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Great game by KSU last night......I'm going to the KSU/Duke game tonight with the old man. Hope KSU wins....I ****ing hate Duke basketball, always have and always will. Gonna DVR the KU and MU games tonight.
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:16 AM   #232
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As long as we are grabbing rebounds on those misses, then its all good for me.

The fact that Mr. Mac is our most consistent rebounder is both impressive and disheartening at the same time. He's balling like Rodman; but with Judge, Kelly*, JHR, Asparilla, and Samuels, Mac should be 4th on that list.

Our bigs need to continue to increase their reb. stats by being more aggressive under the rim. We need to win those 50/50's. We need to win those 25/75's also.

We did a great job of it last night, and I think Frank will have them in full beast mode come conference play.
Gruds is our best rebounder because he has long arms, great hops and he gets great position. He's not afraid to mix it up. Not really surprising.
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:23 AM   #233
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:49 AM   #234
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Gruds is our best rebounder because he has long arms, great hops and he gets great position. He's not afraid to mix it up. Not really surprising.
Right, which I love.

But the other guys I mentioned are physically gifted for the art of rebounding. CK and Judge with their gangly ass arms, Asparilla with his weight and sheer mass, and Jamsam with his ups and brains.

If those guys step it up in practice, work on their positioning a ton, and then translate it into games..... oh my. My oh my.

Speaking of gangly ass arms, how about some of those swats and strips on defense last night?
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:48 PM   #235
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I saw it quite differently. KSU will rely on Pullen/Sprads/Gruds and the three ball. Until Fredo get some real legs under him the inside game is non existent. I had great seats last night and Frank constantly ran sets for Wally and JAMSAM. But they never got the ball in the proper position. Always a few to far out. Frank was telling them to hold off the defender low and keep that good position. Many times, the entry angle was poor also.

Relying on the 3 is nothing new. However last year it was just Pullen and Clemente shooting 3's. There are one hell of a lot more guys shooting and more importantly making 3's. I had a nosebleed seat, so I probably couldn't see as much as you. But their post entry was pretty bad. But like last year, the bigs get theirs from OREB and hustle plays. It's early. Things will smooth out. But the offense is really not as bad as a lot of guys think. I think they are on pace to be a better offense than last year.

The whole "Duke and the refs" statement is ridiculous from KU fans. Duke plays great defense. They play hard and it's easy to see why they are everybody's favorite to make it back to the FF. They have great guards and great big men who can flash outside and drop the 3.

Why is it shit? If the refs allow physical play, advantage KSU. End.

Duke does play great defense but they reach A LOT. And they're not all that physical and I think will struggle with KSU's physical play. IMO, they didnm't play all that hard yesterday. Marquette really played terrible minus a little run in there where they kicked Duke's ass all over the floor for 5 minutes or so. KSU (I anticipate) will put much much more pressure on Duke. Duke may very well get back to the FF. But March is a long way away, and I think if the refs let them play, this game belongs to KSU.



And if you think KSU has an inside advantage, I'd like to know where you see the advantage.
Plumlee and Singler have more inside game in their pinky than anybody that KSU has. Duke should be a heavy favorite. And Jake may get his but as of now his scoring will be difficult as he is also the PG. He has to make the team go and carry the load. Difficult task. Maybe Spradling will hit a few again to take the pressure off.

Singler is good, but he's hardly a big man. He plays more like a guard down low. Plumlee is more physical than Singler, but much less talented. Marquette played him completely wrong. They had all sorts of backside help and wouldn't even try to work even a partial front. Plumlee had a career high yesterday. He's relatively strong, but Marquette played them nothing like KSU will play them. I really think the ball pressure and physical play down low takes the advantage away from Duke. Plumlee is a technique guy. He's not overly talented. KSU works to negate technique with physical play and better physical ability. This isn't going to be one on one in the post. If it were, Duke would win that battle. I will be surprised if Duke gets a lot of production down low. If they do, it will be on defensive errors, not dominating post moves.
See above. JMO. I haven't seen KSU play a lot this year, I could be off base.
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Did anyone catch Frank Martin yelling at his players and the refs again last night? The reason K-state is so bad at free throws is because they lack focus because there coach is a lunatic. It's only a matter of time before he hits a player.
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Did anyone catch Frank Martin yelling at his players and the refs again last night? The reason K-state is so bad at free throws is because they lack focus because there coach is a lunatic. It's only a matter of time before he hits a player.
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Frank Martin is an intense Coach. Even being a fan of a rival team it's hard not to like the guy. Pelini on the other hand is a complete tool.
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