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Old 01-08-2011, 12:09 PM  
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Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot at public event

Giffords shot at meet n greet in front of a tucson safeway. Early reports 12 wounded. 4 confirmed dead, early reports say giffords was shot in the head. 3 of her staff are also wounded. No report from the hospital on giffords.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:16 PM   #241
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I actually briefly looked into applying for Gabe's job when his predecessor left.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:17 PM   #242
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Sounds like Ron Barber is OK, but another person I worked with Gabe Zimmerman is dead. As is a member of my wife's family's church.

I don't pray, but many of you do. Please extend your thoughts or prayers to Gabe's family and everyone involved.

We went to the vigil at the hospital tonight.







Thanks for posting this, it wouldn't hurt to start praying now as well.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:19 PM   #243
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Of course he knew what he was doing. And this blame game people are playing is a crock of horse shit. He did it. No one made him do it. The media can suck a big cow dick. We need to place the blame squarley where it belongs. And that is on the guy who pulled the ****ing trigger.
I agree with you about he knew what he was doing. As far as the early blame game there is still a lot we don't know about, what his motivations were and what role the other suspect played in it.

But I do agree with what the Sheriff said tonight and I think there needs to be some toning down of the rhetoric:

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"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And, unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry.

"It's not unusual for all public officials to get threats constantly, myself included. And that's the sad thing of what's going on in America. Pretty soon, we're not going to be able to find reasonable, decent people who are willing to subject themselves to serve in public office."

Let me just say one thing, because people tend to poo-poo this business about all the vitriol that we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that. That may be free speech. But it's not without consequences.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:28 PM   #244
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I mean in the sense of criminally insane, the legal definition. As for just every day identification of the nuts among us, well, yeah.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:37 PM   #245
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Sounds like Ron Barber is OK, but another person I worked with Gabe Zimmerman is dead. As is a member of my wife's family's church.

I don't pray, but many of you do. Please extend your thoughts or prayers to Gabe's family and everyone involved.

We went to the vigil at the hospital tonight.
I was reading another site and there seemed to be really conflicting info on Ron Barber... gald to hear he is ok...so sorry for all your other friends...prayers to everyone who has had their life torn inside out by this senseless act...
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:49 PM   #246
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This is all very sad, prayers headed for those involved and your friends families way Jaz.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:53 PM   #247
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Wise? No, wise would have been not to use it in the first place. The possibility of that type of rhetoric and advertising inciting violence was discussed months ago on the national stage. She defended it, she owns it (the ad and the fallout, not the crime).
If true tyranny ever came to this country it would be the time to fight just as it was over 200 years ago. But a moderate Dem is not in that camp for being a target especially when there's a Republican majority in congress showing how there is still a peaceful transfer of power going on. Furthermore, such acts would only hurt the the cause. So please differentiate her statements for what they were meant to address, which I'm sure you're unable to do. Apples and oranges.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:54 PM   #248
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Was it a nine year old that was killed or a none month old? Either way it's utterly tragic a child died. I hear Gifford is pulling through but it is a serious wound. She won't be the same after wards. My best wishes to the rest.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:12 PM   #249
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I was reading another site and there seemed to be really conflicting info on Ron Barber... gald to hear he is ok...so sorry for all your other friends...prayers to everyone who has had their life torn inside out by this senseless act...
Yeah CJ (her press secretary) was first reported to have been shot. Then he himself came out and reported that Ron was recovering but Gabe had died.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:14 PM   #250
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Was it a nine year old that was killed or a none month old? Either way it's utterly tragic a child died. I hear Gifford is pulling through but it is a serious wound. She won't be the same after wards. My best wishes to the rest.
9 year old girl.

She was a 9/11 baby, born on 9/11 and featured in a book about such babies.

She was taken to the event by a neighbor. My wife pointed that out. I can't imagine the eternal guilt that the neighbor will have forever for taking her. Sad, sad day.
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9 year old girl.

She was a 9/11 baby, born on 9/11 and featured in a book about such babies.

She was taken to the event by a neighbor. My wife pointed that out. I can't imagine the eternal guilt that the neighbor will have forever for taking her. Sad, sad day.
Interesting. I wouldn't want to be that neighbor. Good grief.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:53 PM   #252
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Truly, truly sad

But don't be surprised if the MSMM(Mainstream Marxist Media) try to pin this on the tea party and label this person a teapartier. They (Radical Left Stalinists,Maoists etc...) have been looking for something they can pin on the tea party for months now and don't put it past these 'little cowardly anarchists' that they could have been behind this in order to create chaos to divert and Alinskyize the Tea party.

This is what Marxists due and is straight out of the Communist Playbook.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:02 PM   #253
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From what i've read she was a former republican, pro 2nd amendment and was in favor of closing the border. She seems to be a breath of fresh air and someone that doesn't see things as left/right but from a constitutional perspective. Jaz feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on this.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:05 PM   #254
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Truly, truly sad

But don't be surprised if the MSMM(Mainstream Marxist Media) try to pin this on the tea party and label this person a teapartier. They (Radical Left Stalinists,Maoists etc...) have been looking for something they can pin on the tea party for months now and don't put it past these 'little cowardly anarchists' that they could have been behind this in order to create chaos to divert and Alinskyize the Tea party.

This is what Marxists due and is straight out of the Communist Playbook.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:07 PM   #255
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From what i've read she was a former republican, pro 2nd amendment and was in favor of closing the border. She seems to be a breath of fresh air and someone that doesn't see things as left/right but from a constitutional perspective. Jaz feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on this.
She's incredibly thoughtful. Sincere. She took tough stands on issues she cared deeply about. You wouldn't agree with her on everything, but she is an honest broker of compromise. She is a STRONG advocate for rebuilding our educational systems around science and math education. She is a huge supporter of NASA and space exploration, even before meeting Mark.

She isn't a strict constructionist like many on the right.

But when given a fair viewing by conservatives, outside the framing that comes from the horrible rhetoric of the last 18 years, she's a Dem that Republicans really like.
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