RIP Steve Jobs

[ChiefsandO'sfan]

juliekellogg Julie Breithaupt
(AP) -- Apple says Steve Jobs has died.


http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by Frankie

FWIW:

Man I lived that movie. I have it and have been scared to watch it for all the old memories it might unleash.

[Shag]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I have no doubt that Zuck may have been somewhat shady and is a bad person too. BUT I have yet to hear/read anything that is in the same BALLPARK as the crap Jobs pulled. If someone decided to crusade against Zuck and knew what they were talking about, I certainly wouldn't defend Zuck and argue against the person.

You mean, like stealing the entire idea of Facebook?

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by patteeu

In his Stanford speech he says that his pancreatic cancer was a rare form that is more curable than the standard pancreatic cancer. I'm guessing that that has something to do with his unusually long post-cancer survival.

The sad part is he delayed his surgery for nearly a year when he was first diagnosed. If he had followed his doctors' advice he would still be alive.

[Shag]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He had islet cell carcinoma. It's a much rarer, and different form of pancreatic cancer. If he had garden-variety pancreatic cancer, he'd have been dead seven years ago. There's no worse cancer.

Good info - thanks. I'd been wondering how he'd survived so long with pancreatic cancer...

[Pestilence]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is incredibly important. You don't want to piss on the guy's grave, but he didn't exactly invent protease inhibitors or the Polio vaccine.

In some ways, this is almost like the death of the Georgio Armani of Computers. He didn't invent the damned thing, he just came up with ways to make it more convenient, but more than anything, fashionable.

Not pissing on his grave.

I'm just trying to figure out why this guy deserves candlelit vigils and all of the news coverage.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is incredibly important. You don't want to piss on the guy's grave, but he didn't exactly invent protease inhibitors or the Polio vaccine.

In some ways, this is almost like the death of the Georgio Armani of Computers. He didn't invent the damned thing, he just came up with ways to make it more convenient, but more than anything, fashionable.

This is the most dead on accurate statement in the entire thread.

Though as much as I don't like the man himself, I won't undersell how influential he was because of his ability to market his vision of technology to the masses...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Not pissing on his grave.

I'm just trying to figure out why this guy deserves candlelit vigils and all of the news coverage.

Oh, I didn't think you were in the least. However, there is a fair amount of urine in the carpet padding of this thread.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

16. AustinChief CEO Chiefsplanet: "Steve was a visionary, but a complete douche. He stole most of his ideas from other people and never credited them. Steve was not a nice person from everything i read. The world is a better place today. Good riddance."

Didn't Gates steal Mac's idea for Windows?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Didn't Gates steal Mac's idea for Windows?

After Jobs stole the idea from Xerox.

[TEX]

Yeah - RIP to a guy I didn't know and don't really care about, who had butt loads of money, invented pretty cool things, and was very smart...

[loochy]

Originally Posted by TEX

Yeah - RIP to a guy I didn't know and don't really care about, who had butt loads of money, invented pretty cool things, and was very smart...

This is pretty much it.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

After Jobs stole the idea from Xerox.

The definition of creativity is the ability to hide your source.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

How exactly did he make the world a better place again?

It depends on if you're open to new technology or scared of it. But Steve Jobs created the market for technologies that a lot of people are so heavily reliant on.

And he made the U.S. a much better place. That's for sure. Before Jobs, the U.S. was getting our ass handed to us in technology. Sony, Aiwa, Panasonic, etc... made our stereos. Our phones were 2-3 years behind the ones sold in Asia. Now they use our mp3 players and our phones, not the other way around.

In the global economy, the U.S. doesn't have a whole lot to be proud of. That's why losing a guy like Jobs hurts real bad. I'm not convinced that Apple can continue to be the force they were without him.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

BUT I have yet to hear/read anything that is in the same BALLPARK as the crap Jobs pulled

You have clearly not watched The Social Network.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is incredibly important. You don't want to piss on the guy's grave, but he didn't exactly invent protease inhibitors or the Polio vaccine.

In some ways, this is almost like the death of the Georgio Armani of Computers. He didn't invent the damned thing, he just came up with ways to make it more convenient, but more than anything, fashionable.

I think you're short-selling how much of a business genius it was. He wasn't successful because he took other people's products and wrapped his Apple brand around it. He had a unique gift for bringing a product to critical mass in a split-second.

The iPod wasn't just a pretty version of an mp3 player. Jobs battled a music industry that was extremely resistant to using mp3s because they viewed them as largely pirated media, and they were too old-fashioned to recognize that this is what consumers wanted. He created a market for mp3s that was way too big to ignore and that was the tipping point for the music industry to finally wake up to the idea that music had to be sold on a different platform. The iPhone wasn't just a phone that could do smart stuff. It required coordination of a lot of external software developers who could rapidly create enough apps to make the iPhone cool to use. If you don't believe that, take a look at how Blackberry screwed the pooch with RIM.

What I disagree with is I think you're presupposing that had Jobs not been around, these innovations would have hit the market anyway. Maybe so, but it would have taken a really long time. The product life cycle isn't smooth. Most revolutionary technologies hit what's called a life cycle chasm and never make it across. And until you cross that chasm, the technology runs into a ton of obstacles.