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Old 01-09-2011, 02:42 PM  
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Cassel did, does, and will always suck

I had backed off on my Cassel hate in the second half of the season because he actually started to play with a modicum of competence. But I never stopped being wary of him, because he was playing well against shitty, shitty ****ing teams.

But today is proof positive that Cassel is NOT the answer. He will NOT be a franchise quarterback. He simply doesn't have the ability or the intelligence that is required. He never really progressed this season; he just managed to not shit himself against the NFC West.

Can we all just agree that he's not the answer? Please?
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:37 PM   #1081
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I think it will prob take atleast 2 first rounders, 2 second rounders, and a couple thirds. And I would pull that trigger in a heartbeat.

If you get a franchise qb. A true really great one you don't need to hit every draft pick or much less even have a pick. Look at the Packers Falcons game tonight for example. How many of the Packs or even the Falcons WR or Rb were top prospects coming out? Save Julio Jones who they traded up to get because they thought he was the missing piece.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:38 PM   #1082
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Lmao, you are delusional. This is a prospect, not a lock, he could be manning or he could be leaf. You don't know. This guy has a chance to be really good, but there are no guarantees.
ok buddy

he's a lock

everyone knows it...it's just fact

the dude has zero chance of failure, outside of some sort of freak injury

he's too ready, he's too smart, and he's too good
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:39 PM   #1083
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the Ryan Leaf comparisons don't even make any sense, either

Leaf was raw as raw could be...he had "upside"..."upside" QB picks fail 75% of the time...

Parcells had that one right, I'll give him that.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:40 PM   #1084
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you can find 5 or 6 (if not more) undrafted guys every year who are just as valuable as 80% of 4th round picks...(or later)

Shit...unless you lose a guy like Berry or an absolute IMPACT player...half the time you can't even notice the difference between a Javier Arenas and a Jalil Brown...it's all about scheme...the 90% defense rule
Damn couldn't get my post in before you.

In my honest opinion we have the superstars on both sides of the ball that we need. If the ACL's heal properly and they are ok. We just need that guy at qb.

Cassel had a damn good day today don't get me wrong. But even without Charles and Moeaki, with the weapons left on this offense and Baldwin coming back, what Cassel did today should be the norm. Not an exception.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:42 PM   #1085
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ok buddy

he's a lock

everyone knows it...it's just fact

the dude has zero chance of failure, outside of some sort of freak injury

he's too ready, he's too smart, and he's too good
great post. This is what I told my wife last night while watching the Stanford game. Right now Luck is as good as Matt Ryan. He could step into this team, when fully healthy, and it instantly makes us a 10 win team. Atleast.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:42 PM   #1086
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ok buddy

he's a lock

everyone knows it...it's just fact

the dude has zero chance of failure, outside of some sort of freak injury

he's too ready, he's too smart, and he's too good
and he hasn't played a down in the nfl.

I think I'll wait and see before I proclaim him better than manning, brady, brees, rivers,etc.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:42 PM   #1087
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a healthy Baldwin, a Tony Gonzalez, and a healthy Charles would've made for a potent offense even with our asshole QB as long as they're letting him throw the ball down the field...

I don't understand the first 2.5 games where we didn't try and throw the ball downfield, or use Breaston. Is that all on Cassel? I really don't know, I wasn't in the huddle...half of me thinks it had something to do with coaching.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:42 PM   #1088
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Almost, as long as the defensive player is not Berry.
I would gladly part with him.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:43 PM   #1089
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and he hasn't played a down in the nfl.

I think I'll wait and see before I proclaim him better than manning, brady, brees, rivers,etc.
never said he was better than those guys right now

I said

going forward...if right now I could have a QB..

of course I'd take Aaron Rodgers

#2???

Andrew Luck and no doubt about it.

So his value is set there.

Would you trade two full drafts for Aaron Rodgers?

How about three?

Because I'd ****ing do both in a god damn heartbeat.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:44 PM   #1090
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we might as well understand we're not getting luck...and hope someone like Landry Jones is available via trade and that he turns out to be good.
I think a lot of these QBs are so close you'd probably be better off just hoping one of them fell to you.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:46 PM   #1091
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I would gladly part with him.
I wouldn't quite give him up. But I like your thinking.

I would for damn sure give up this draft. I am not a S4L'er but I have never wanted a player as bad as I want Luck to qb this team.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:46 PM   #1092
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I would gladly part with him.
Great. And at what price, Daddio?
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well if anything any QB who walks in the door has a shit ton of weapons at their disposal to help them transition so...that's a good thing
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Great. And at what price, Daddio?
let me guess

you being the dipshit that you are probably wouldn't trade Berry straight up for Luck
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I think a lot of these QBs are so close you'd probably be better off just hoping one of them fell to you.
Alot of them are close. After Luck they are all fairly similiar in that they have strengths but definate weaknesses. Thats not the case with Luck.
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