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Old 01-09-2011, 01:42 PM  
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Cassel did, does, and will always suck

I had backed off on my Cassel hate in the second half of the season because he actually started to play with a modicum of competence. But I never stopped being wary of him, because he was playing well against shitty, shitty ****ing teams.

But today is proof positive that Cassel is NOT the answer. He will NOT be a franchise quarterback. He simply doesn't have the ability or the intelligence that is required. He never really progressed this season; he just managed to not shit himself against the NFC West.

Can we all just agree that he's not the answer? Please?
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:48 PM   #1096
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I don't want to have to hope one of the other qbs turns out to be good. I wanna go after the sure thing.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:49 PM   #1097
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never said he was better than those guys right now

I said

going forward...if right now I could have a QB..

of course I'd take Aaron Rodgers

#2???

Andrew Luck and no doubt about it.

So his value is set there.

Would you trade two full drafts for Aaron Rodgers?

How about three?

Because I'd ****ing do both in a god damn heartbeat.
No ****ing way. I wouldn't trade two full drafts for one guy period, however if I had to I most certainly wouldn't trade for a guy whose competition thus far has been weak ass college teams.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:52 PM   #1098
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No ****ing way. I wouldn't trade two full drafts for one guy period, however if I had to I most certainly wouldn't trade for a guy whose competition thus far has been weak ass college teams.


with OUR CURRENT TEAM...assuming Charles and Berry (**** Moeaki) were healthy...

Aaron Rodgers would make us a 12-13 win team RIGHT NOW and a perennial Super Bowl contender...

yet you wouldn't trade two drafts for him?

you, sir...are not smart
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:53 PM   #1099
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with OUR CURRENT TEAM...assuming Charles and Berry (**** Moeaki) were healthy...

Aaron Rodgers would make us a 12-13 win team RIGHT NOW and a perennial Super Bowl contender...

yet you wouldn't trade two drafts for him?

you, sir...are not smart
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:53 PM   #1100
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You don't have to turn in your I hate Matt Cassel card by admitting when he plays well. Not every good play by Cassel has to be qualified...yeah, but....
Sometimes he plays well.
I still want another QB
I don't hate Cassel.
I argued last year that he might be capable of playing well when the Chiefs got into the playoffs, because the games he played well in should help him to grow and progress.

But he didn't.
He reverted back to the Cassel that played poorly against every other good defense he faced.

He's been that same guy this year.

And even when he plays well, he still isn't playing all that well.

His TD pass to Bowe that was an acrobatic catch was a piss poor throw.

His long TD pass to Breaston was an underthrown poorly, thrown pass.

His only good pass that traveled beyond 10 yards in the air was about a 15 yard seam route.

Everything else was checkdowns, designed swing passes and slants.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:53 PM   #1101
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people don't realize that...

after the 3rd round

4th-7th round picks are just roster fillers...and sometimes YAY one works out...but very low %

so we'd be trading a few Dwayne Bowe's, Turk McBride's, Branden Albert's and maybe a Jamaal Charles for Aaron Rodgers.

and yet...

MotherLover isn't doing that! That's stupid! WE NEED TO STASH OUR SUCCOP'S AND O'CONNEL'S FOR A RAINY DAY!
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:54 PM   #1102
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I don't want to have to hope one of the other qbs turns out to be good. I wanna go after the sure thing.
Well at this point that only seems to be Luck. Unfortunately, that ship has sailed. Time to move on and hope for a lot of other things...

- That we actually draft a QB high.
- And that he turns out to be great.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:54 PM   #1103
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Having a franchise qb gives you a chance to win every game, every year. Something you would think Chiefs fans would understand and want more than anything.

It's time to push all the chips in and get the "guy". If he gives us a chance to win a SB's with the current roster we already have why would you not.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:57 PM   #1104
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I would gladly part with him.
The million dollar question is, "Would Pioli give up everything that you suggested to include Berry for Luck?"
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:58 PM   #1105
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The million dollar question is, "Would Pioli give up everything that you suggested to include Berry for Luck?"
it's a fantasy

none of this will happen, this isn't Madden

whoever gets the #1 sans Carolina...is taking Andrew Luck

and even if Carolina does get the #1...they might still take him and trade Cam Newton!
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:59 PM   #1106
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I wouldn't start trading players. I'd give up any draft picks they want. Hell i'd almost say "As long as the guy I draft with your first pick is on my team, you can have my first round pick for that year" if that pick is Luck.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:59 PM   #1107
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let me guess

you being the dipshit that you are probably wouldn't trade Berry straight up for Luck
Yeah, as Zorn, Cassel, and Haley, won't make any effect on Stanzi. I'd see Stanzi-Berry pkg go for five picks, intrinsically, to Minny, before any teir below. Such a trade would never happen, and Berry, if on a crutch, won't be on the block.

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Old 10-09-2011, 08:59 PM   #1108
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the Rams might be the only team willing to trade out of #1 and that's just because they invested $50M guaranteed into Bradford...

Carolina didn't have to do that with Newton.
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it's a fantasy

none of this will happen, this isn't Madden

whoever gets the #1 sans Carolina...is taking Andrew Luck

and even if Carolina does get the #1...they might still take him and trade Cam Newton!
And STL
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Yeah, as Zorn, Cassel, and Haley, won't make any effect on Stanzi. I'd see Stanzi-Berry pkg go for five picks, intrinsically, to Minny, before any teir below. Such a trade would never happen, and Berry, if on a crutch, won't be on the block.

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what the **** does any of that even mean? Are you high?
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