**** OFFICIAL 2012 Kansas Football Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

New Coach, New year, new thread.

Sat, Sept. 1 SDSU at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS at 6:00p.m. CT Jayhawk IMG TV Network

Sat, Sept. 8 Rice at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS FSN at 2:30p.m. CT Fox Sports Net

Sat, Sept. 15 TCU at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS at 11:00a.m. CT FX

Sat, Sept. 22 Kansas at No. Illinois
DeKalb, Illinois

Sat, Oct. 6 Kansas at Kansas State Bill Snyder Family Stadium
Manhattan, KS

Sat, Oct. 13 Okla. St. at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Oct. 20 Kansas at Oklahoma Oklahoma Memorial Stadium
Norman, OK

Sat, Oct. 27 Texas at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Nov. 3 Kansas at Baylor Floyd Casey Stadium
Waco, TX

Sat, Nov. 10 Kansas at TT Jones AT&T Stadium
Lubbock, TX

Sat, Nov. 17 Iowa State at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Dec. 1 Kansas at West Virginia
Morgantown, W.V.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If I were a KU fan, I wouldn't be able to rationalize passing on Leach. He would make the program instantly relevant and more profitable. At this point, the university desperately needs to establish both of these qualities for the program.

There was no downside to hiring Leach for KU football.

QFT

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I could too - I just really hate twitter for obvious reasons.

sure....there are guys from Scout with connections that have reported the admin angle a few days ago, so there has been some smoke

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If I were a KU fan, I wouldn't be able to rationalize passing on Leach. He would make the program instantly relevant and more profitable. At this point, the university desperately needs to establish both of these qualities for the program.

There was no downside to hiring Leach for KU football.

I agree. Unfortunately, that ship has sailed. So, now what is our best 2nd option?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I agree. Unfortunately, that ship has sailed. So, now what is our best 2nd option?

I don't know enough about him to say with certainty, but it appears that you could do much worse than Fedora. Not sure if he's a piece of Cassel in disguise, though.

[the Talking Can]

all any program needs to do is hire a good coach, the rest takes care of itself....


Fedora seems the best 2nd option by quite a bit...but who knows

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I don't know enough about him to say with certainty, but it appears that you could do much worse than Fedora. Not sure if he's a piece of Cassel in disguise, though.

I'm not sure the KU football program could survive another "Gill" hiring.

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If I were a KU fan, I wouldn't be able to rationalize passing on Leach. He would make the program instantly relevant and more profitable. At this point, the university desperately needs to establish both of these qualities for the program.

There was no downside to hiring Leach for KU football.

So you would take a chance on the most powerful sports network in the world "reprioritizing" their basketball coverage, lowering the premier program's profile in order to hire Mike Leach?

I have a feeling that pissing off ESPN was something Dr. Z wants to avoid.

[WilliamInnerCircle]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Why is that not believable? I would think most schools would require that. That's probably why he hasn't had a job for the past 2 seasons.

Because it's just not believable. Leach, while an enigma for sure, is no idiot. Leach has a no reason to listen to any contract offer with that caveat. Because he's going to make somebody pay.

And if I'm an administrator of an Athletic Department, I hire him anyway. The whole idea that Leach would be toxic to a program that has hit a very low point is just a nice way of rationalizing that he didn't want the job.

No offense, it's just my opinion.

[Reerun_KC]

Bring ballsack strong!!!

[WilliamInnerCircle]

Originally Posted by Braincase

So you would take a chance on the most powerful sports network in the world "reprioritizing" their basketball coverage, lowering the premier program's profile in order to hire Mike Leach?

I have a feeling that pissing off ESPN was something Dr. Z wants to avoid.

You really think ESPN would try to collude with an AD and Chancellor by telling them: "We are going to make Big East games last even longer than ever", to blackmail a university and be able to keep it hidden from Mike Leach?

I don't.

[Reerun_KC]

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Braincase

So you would take a chance on the most powerful sports network in the world "reprioritizing" their basketball coverage, lowering the premier program's profile in order to hire Mike Leach?

I have a feeling that pissing off ESPN was something Dr. Z wants to avoid.

That's silly.

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

You really think ESPN would try to collude with an AD and Chancellor by telling them: "We are going to make Big East games last even longer than ever", to blackmail a university and be able to keep it hidden from Mike Leach?

I don't.

No, but I would see ESPN saying, "We're going to broadcast a few more Big Monday matchups that focus on Kansas State, Baylor, Texas, Missouri and Okie State. You're national games will drop by 50%".

How do you treat your business partners when they hire somebody that's suing you for a few million bucks?

[teedubya]

When I read Leach's book and how he talks about loyalty... and how him and Mangino are good friends from working with him at OU in 2000... I knew he wasn't coming to KU.

Sad but true. I still held out hope, however. I actually doubt it was an university decision.

[WilliamInnerCircle]

Originally Posted by Braincase

No, but I would see ESPN saying, "We're going to broadcast a few more Big Monday matchups that focus on Kansas State, Baylor, Texas, Missouri and Okie State. You're national games will drop by 50%".

How do you treat your business partners when they hire somebody that's suing you for a few million bucks?

BC, you're like a brother to me.

But this debate, brought on by a Fescoe tweet no less (and we know how wrong he is on most things) is ridiculous. If KU is the jewel of the conference, and they MAKE more money for ESPN than any other Big XII entity, they would collude/blackmail a university chancellor and the entire athletic department, in order to keep that university, which was giving away tickets and bleeding money, from hiring a coach that would instantly give credibility and energize even the crappiest fans (ari)?

I'm just not buying that argument.