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Old 01-26-2012, 08:42 AM  
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Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

Jeff Chadiha of ESPN was interviewed on 810 this morning and had some interesting bits about Cassel:

- He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"

- Was told by a source within the Chiefs that he trusts that Matt Cassel was still mistakenly calling out plays using Patriots terminology...in year two

- Was told that Weiss was not a Cassel fan at all (I know this isn't new, but yet another source confirming what we already know)

- Was informed by multiple sources around the league that the Chiefs OC job is not a prime destination because of the atmosphere created by Pioli, lack of confidence in the staying power of Romeo and the fact that Cassel is the QB

Very depressing interview....

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Old 02-02-2012, 07:44 PM   #316
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Wouldn't have winning those games put us in the playoffs?

You arent making sense here.
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That's under the incredibly loose assumption that the team would have turned around in the next 14 games.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:45 PM   #317
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Truth is, if three players dont have fluke ACL tears, all of this is moot.
Well-conditioned players can certainly suffer injuries. But they don't have as many injuries as poorly conditioned players. I question how well these guys were conditioned, especially with early season injuries like that.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:48 PM   #318
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That's under the incredibly loose assumption that the team would have turned around in the next 14 games.
How so? The season played out. We ended up 7-7 in those games.

wins in weeks one and two put us in the playoffs, even with palko starting , what 4 games.

Not being ready to play out of the gate cost us a playoff berth.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:52 PM   #319
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How so? The season played out. We ended up 7-7 in those games.

wins in weeks one and two put us in the playoffs, even with palko starting , what 4 games.

Not being ready to play out of the gate cost us a playoff berth.
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Again. Look at the talent after losing Charles, Moeaki, and Berry. Was the team a playoff team? Even WITH those 3 key players, we all predicted 7-9. Without those guys, we ended up 7-9.

The fact that we won 7 games was a goddamn miracle. 2 games in an entire career should not a career make.

JFC. Norv Turner turns an ultra-talented team into a bubble playoff team. Todd Haley takes a bad team and turns them into a bubble playoff team. One of the two keeps their job. If Pioli gave Haley good enough players to work with, the Chiefs would be in the playoffs. That's the bigger issue. Not two games that they lose against teams that ended up being pretty good.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:56 PM   #320
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Again. Look at the talent after losing Charles, Moeaki, and Berry. Was the team a playoff team? Even WITH those 3 key players, we all predicted 7-9. Without those guys, we ended up 7-9.

The fact that we won 7 games was a goddamn miracle. 2 games in an entire career should not a career make.

JFC. Norv Turner turns an ultra-talented team into a bubble playoff team. Todd Haley takes a bad team and turns them into a bubble playoff team. One of the two keeps their job. If Pioli gave Haley good enough players to work with, the Chiefs would be in the playoffs. That's the bigger issue. Not two games that they lose against teams that ended up being pretty good.
what are you talking about? Who gives two shits what anyone predicted our record would be?


Bottom line we come out of the gate ready to play and win weeks one and two we are in the playoffs, even with haley screwing us for four games with a palko dildo...

Imo haley very possibly cost this team 5 wins all by himself this year.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:57 PM   #321
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Good teams have games where a good defense gives up a lot of points. The difference is, Aaron Rodgers can put up 30 points to make the game competitive.

The Chiefs lost in blowouts because if the defense wasn't nails, Matt Cassel wasn't a good enough QB to keep up. This is a QB-driven league. in QB-driven leagues, teams put up points. If your team doesn't put up points against a team who does, you get blown out.
Dude, I'm sorry but when 1/3 of your teams' 27 historical blowouts come under one coach in 2 1/2 seasons then something is wrong with the coaching.

9 blowouts under Haley. It took Haley 2 1/2 seasons to do what it took other teams 23 years respectively to do the same. And we had some pretty shitty teams. Think about that for a second...18 blowouts in 46 years and Todd Haley gets 9 in 2 1/2!
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:59 PM   #322
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Dude, I'm sorry but when 1/3 of your teams' 27 historical blowouts come under one coach in 2 1/2 seasons then something is wrong with the coaching.

9 blowouts under Haley. It took Haley 2 1/2 seasons to do what it took other teams 23 years respectively to do the same. And we had some pretty shitty teams. Think about that for a second...18 blowouts in 46 years and Todd Haley gets 9 in 2 1/2!
Say it.

Matt Cassel can lead this team to the playoffs in a QB driven league.

Just say it. And I'll back off.

The Chiefs got blown out because when their defense wasn't nails, our QB couldn't put up 20 points. Aaron Rodgers can. Often.
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Say it.

Matt Cassel can lead this team to the playoffs in a QB driven league.

Just say it. And I'll back off.

The Chiefs got blown out because when their defense wasn't nails, our QB couldn't put up 20 points. Aaron Rodgers can. Often.


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Old 02-02-2012, 08:02 PM   #324
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Say it.

The Chiefs can make the playoffs behind Matt Cassel in a QB driven league. That's all I'm asking. (against a regular schedule).
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Say it.

Matt Cassel can lead this team to the playoffs in a QB driven league.

Just say it. And I'll back off.

The Chiefs got blown out because when their defense wasn't nails, our QB couldn't put up 20 points. Aaron Rodgers can. Often.
Yeah, he can piggyback on the good players and ride until he crashes the bus into an AIDS tree and it explodes in a hail of fiery HIV.

Eat shit.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:06 PM   #326
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Yeah, he can piggyback on the good players and ride until he crashes the bus into an AIDS tree and it explodes in a hail of fiery HIV.

Eat shit.
The Chiefs came into their own the second half of the year because of Justin Houston and ultimately Kyle Orton. Until those two ended up in the picture, the defense didn't have nearly enough talent and our QB (a critical position) brought our team down.

All of you hate Matt Cassel. All of you say the QB is critical. All of you would trade the entire Chiefs' draft, your first born, and the key too Zuul for a franchise QB. Yet nobody here, not a single person, can say that the Chiefs would have made the playoffs had they had a good QB all season long. Orton isn't even a great QB. He's good enough.
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Say it.

The Chiefs can make the playoffs behind Matt Cassel in a QB driven league. That's all I'm asking. (against a regular schedule).
Um, yea seeing as they DID
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The Chiefs came into their own the second half of the year because of Justin Houston and ultimately Kyle Orton. Until those two ended up in the picture, the defense didn't have nearly enough talent and our QB (a critical position) brought our team down.

All of you hate Matt Cassel. All of you say the QB is critical. All of you would trade the entire Chiefs' draft, your first born, and the key too Zuul for a franchise QB. Yet nobody here, not a single person, can say that the Chiefs would have made the playoffs had they had a good QB all season long. Orton isn't even a great QB. He's good enough.
Huh? I will say that the kansas city chiefs would have absolutely made the playoffs with just a good qb all season long.

The real reason our d started looking so dominant is because orton cut down on the % of three and out drives.

But again that is moot if we come out strong and win in weeks one and two, even with palko starting four games.


Why won't you just say that one time?
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:11 PM   #329
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The Chiefs came into their own the second half of the year because of Justin Houston and ultimately Kyle Orton. Until those two ended up in the picture, the defense didn't have nearly enough talent and our QB (a critical position) brought our team down.

All of you hate Matt Cassel. All of you say the QB is critical. All of you would trade the entire Chiefs' draft, your first born, and the key too Zuul for a franchise QB. Yet nobody here, not a single person, can say that the Chiefs would have made the playoffs had they had a good QB all season long. Orton isn't even a great QB. He's good enough.
I can say Peyton Manning took a team that was 2-14 without him to 10-6 and the playoffs. In fact, get a load of this:

Since being taken with the No. 1 overall pick in 1998, Manning has led the Colts to 11 playoff appearances, 11 double-digit winning seasons, eight division crowns, two AFC titles and a Super Bowl championship.

What team has had this level of success consistently without a franchise QB? Maybe the Ravens?
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Um, yea seeing as they DID
Against a regular schedule.

And I should add... without Jamaal Charles to take the ball away from Matt Cassel.
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