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Old 03-04-2012, 04:18 AM  
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Obama birth certificate to turn into election year issue?
I've pretty well ignored this whole thing, but this is looking like it's not going away any time soon.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:11 PM   #16
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Oh goody. Only thing missing out of all of this is Donald Trump declaring himself a candidate for president as an independent, in which the birth certificate becomes his #1 issue.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:55 PM   #18
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...My guess is that they were trying to make the document look more legit, clean it up & optimize...and are just totally inept...
I don't buy that. Obama's posse has access to some of the most skilled document authenticators in the business and instead of a competent forgery they decide to release something that looks like it was slapped together for an elementary school history project? Nope. This isn't a case of ineptitude, IMHO.

But I have no viable explanation.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:03 PM   #19
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I don't buy that. Obama's posse has access to some of the most skilled document authenticators in the business and instead of a competent forgery they decide to release something that looks like it was slapped together for an elementary school history project? Nope. This isn't a case of ineptitude, IMHO.

But I have no viable explanation.
...to show off and prove how apathetic Americans are regarding truth?
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...to show off and prove how apathetic Americans are regarding truth?
It would seem so.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:53 PM   #22
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I haven't given this story any attention before. I've expected that Obama was born in Hawaii like he says. But I have to say, the evidence that this document is a forged digital is pretty strong.
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:09 PM   #23
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I haven't given this story any attention before. I've expected that Obama was born in Hawaii like he says. But I have to say, the evidence that this document is a forged digital is pretty strong.
I feel pretty confidant now knowing you think the evidence is strong considering you believe 9/11 was a conspiracy and Ron Paul will be POTUS
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I feel pretty confidant now knowing you think the evidence is strong considering you believe 9/11 was a conspiracy and Ron Paul will be POTUS
I think that the recent revelations that 9/11 was funded by the Saudi Royal family confirm my belief that there was an inside component to the disaster that day. I think we've been penetrated deeper than we're comfortable to admit. I've always thought the evidence points to an inside component - I don't know what that means exactly, who could guess. But we know that it was funded by deep deep pockets.

But that has nothing to do with this thread. The point I was making in this thread is that a lot more people who ignored this story will now start paying attention. And it appears that some of those people might be senators...
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I don't know a whole lot about photoshop. But at the very least, this document looks very suspicious. The video makes a strong case on how the birth certificate was "shopped." And its not like people can claim that the birthers shopped the document to make it fit their agenda, since it came directly from the white house's official website.

So what would happen if congress officially recognized it as a fake? Does everything that the president has signed become null and void? Would Obama be thrown out of office, therefore making Joe Biden president until the elections?
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I don't know a whole lot about photoshop. But at the very least, this document looks very suspicious. The video makes a strong case on how the birth certificate was "shopped." And its not like people can claim that the birthers shopped the document to make it fit their agenda, since it came directly from the white house's official website.

So what would happen if congress officially recognized it as a fake? Does everything that the president has signed become null and void? Would Obama be thrown out of office, therefore making Joe Biden president until the elections?
Perhaps the White House was fooled by a forger that they considered an ally. The president may be qualified to hold the office regardless of the phony document.
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The problem with this reaction is that there is still all that evidence that this document released is a digital forgery. We're not talking about speculation. The evidence that this thing is a digital forgery is actually very strong. It raises questions that "HAHAHAHAHA" doesn't even begin to answer.

I always thought that this was a nothing story - a waste of time. But this most recent development actually raises more questions because there is actual evidence to examine.
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I feel pretty confidant now knowing you think the evidence is strong considering you believe 9/11 was a conspiracy and Ron Paul will be POTUS
I have been a critic of TJ and of 911 conspiracy nuts...and the Ron Paul tinfoil hat brigade....

I agree with taco's last sentiment... I never paid this story attention, but looking at it, it seems that this document is a fraud. Im not saying obama wasnt born in hawaii....but why the hell forge this document? I dont get it...it is unbelievable. Hopefully we can start a thread where people with some photoshop experience can post unbiased opinions. Im a registered democrat...unbiased on this issue.....this document appears forged...based solely on my knowledge of computer images.
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Perhaps the White House was fooled by a forger that they considered an ally. The president may be qualified to hold the office regardless of the phony document.
This is true...the only thing that I want to focus on is the document itself.....no one can answer 'why' yet, but maybe we can come to a consensus on the document.
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