The Walking Dead ***With Comic Spoilers***

[Buck]

Sunday Nights at 9pm/8pm (Central) on AMC.

Note from Gonzo:

Spoiler Tag all comic book references please. Anything from episodes that have already aired is fine.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Buck

And they never will. They live in a universe where zombies weren't a thing before they became a thing. Never said in the comics either.

Wasn't said in Romero's Night of the Living Dead either.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Dr. noonanbeermefever

They should have killed him when they found him. What good is he other than to potentially cause trouble? They don't "need" him so dispose of him. The old man with the beard who died is lovely at talking sense if their world made sense anymore. Rick is the dumbest "leader" ever.

People die. If you don't add members you will perish. Strength in numbers. A grown man would be useful. The kid would have probably been pretty grateful for them saving his life after his 'companions' abandoned him. They could have treated his wound and, logically, he's probably not going anywhere. They would have been his savior. That would give them an advantage over a potential enemy as well.

Instead Rick makes a pussy decision. He saves his life only to condemn him to death in a way that is easier on his conscience. Either save him or kill him... but make a real decision. You don't torture him for three days and then waffle on killing him. He only views them as captors now.

[NewChief]

While you can argue the realistic/literal level of this show all you want, it's clear to me that the writers are going for something entirely different as of late. Like aturnis said, the "filler" is what the show is about. You're not going to get back-to-back zombie gore-splatter action throughout the episode. That's not the point of the show.

They're moving more and more into an allegorical examination of the dissolution of society and the use of power in the vacuum of government. I love the direction the show is going. I thought the last episode was awesome, and packed a ton of meaning into the various trajectories and uses of power the different group members represent. This should get even better as they travel to different areas.

Lots of comparisons to Lord of the Flies. Some of Watership Downs also comes to mind.

People whining about the literalness of this show would be the same people whining about Gus Fring's cinematic last scene in BB.

That being said, there are valid criticisms to level at the show: dialog gets wooden and drawn out, pacing can be off, they tell instead of show too often, can be heavy handed with the character development, etc...

[dmahurin]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Maybe, but they've been setting up a final Rick/Shane confrontation as well as Carl moving further away from his humanity all season. They may follow the comics here.

I hope they do. That really set a tone to the novels early on.

[Deberg_1990]

So when you become a zombie, do you become superhuman as well? A regular human can't just rip flesh open in seconds with his bare hands like the one did to Dale. But a rotting slow corpse can?

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

So when you become a zombie, do you become superhuman as well? A regular human can't just rip flesh open in seconds with his bare hands like the one did to Dale. But a rotting slow corpse can?

Since zombies work on a brainstem level (higher functions are shut off), I envision it being exactly like one of those "superhuman" moments of emergency where a mom lifts a car off her child who is trapped beneath it. With the taste of "brainz" imminent, the zombie suddenly is flooded with adrenaline (or something) in a last ditch effort to eat.

But yeah, I thought that was pretty over the top. That being said: visceral (haha) moments like that are what much of the zombie-loving audience clamor for.

[frankotank]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Other than the danger they it themselves in getting him off of the fence, what danger has Randall brought to the group?

Whether they save him or not, the other group still knows they exist.

Whether they kill him or not, the risk that the other group finds them is the same.

The only way he is a danger, is if they force him to leave their group. Then, he has no choice but to try and find his buddies again.

If they let him stay, saving his life outweighs beating him up for info. Why would he try to run off to find his old group when:

1. they left him to die, whereas this group risked their lives to save him.

2. He said it himself, they never stay in the same place more than one night.

3. He has only been with their group a short while. The group has been traveling the country pretty much(confirmed by guys in the bar not being locals, one from Philly, and talking about going from rumor to rumor for safety), they only picked him up when they got to this town(confirmed b/c he's a local) and obviously don't plan on staying long, as they haven't set up shot anywhere else between here and Philly, why would they all of a sudden drop anchor here?

you do have some valid points. but....as someone else mentioned....this guy stayed with them after the rapes. very suspicious. as I said before...don't foget he told Carl-tard he'd take him to his people if he helped him escape....wonder when that info will come out? he just MAY be OK and he just MAY be an asset....but if he gains trust and then runs off in the middle of the night....Ricks group is absolutely ****ED! my wife and my kids are the most important thing. I'd kill him. it's harsh. it's the right move. no friggin way you could risk this guy running off to his buddies and bringing them back.....NO WAY! there is no other option.

[Sure-Oz]

Ready for shit to hit the fan..

[Chiefnj2]

Rick and Shane must have been two of the worst police officers in the world.

They interrogate the kid only after the failed attempt at releasing him? Here's an idea, when he's all drugged up from getting his leg repaired question him. Make him think he's your friend, after all you just saved his life and his old "friends" abandoned him.

Does anyone really think rooster Shane is going to let someone else interrogate and beat the kid without him being present?

[PGM]

Originally Posted by Dr. noonanbeermefever

My brother and I watched this show for the first time last night... last episode of last season and first episode of the new.

This is the worst written show I've seen in a long damn time. My brother was actually pissed off about how big the glaring retardation was. I had to keep it on for the new episode after the old one just because he was making me laugh so hard.

Show might have some potential if the charactors weren't so amazingly stupid and didn't do so many amazingly stupid things. It was wow bad.

News flash. People ARE stupid.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by PGM

News flash. People ARE stupid.

Yeah, just take a look around this place.

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

So when you become a zombie, do you become superhuman as well? A regular human can't just rip flesh open in seconds with his bare hands like the one did to Dale. But a rotting slow corpse can?

I'm thinking that since the flesh around their fingers has rotted off and their finger-nails are longer, the zombie had the ideal stabbing weapon in order to gut the old man like a fish.

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

People die. If you don't add members you will perish. Strength in numbers. A grown man would be useful. The kid would have probably been pretty grateful for them saving his life after his 'companions' abandoned him. They could have treated his wound and, logically, he's probably not going anywhere. They would have been his savior. That would give them an advantage over a potential enemy as well.

Instead Rick makes a pussy decision. He saves his life only to condemn him to death in a way that is easier on his conscience. Either save him or kill him... but make a real decision. You don't torture him for three days and then waffle on killing him. He only views them as captors now.

They saved him but how in the hell is he walking after having his foot amputated?

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Buck

And they never will. They live in a universe where zombies weren't a thing before they became a thing. Never said in the comics either.

[Gonzo]

According to the Wiki, exposure to small amounts of zombie fluids isn't enough to get you...

Read if you want but there are spoilers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_(comics)