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Old 03-04-2012, 04:18 AM  
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Obama birth certificate to turn into election year issue?
I've pretty well ignored this whole thing, but this is looking like it's not going away any time soon.
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:52 AM   #286
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Well, not on the same level of course, but the point was just because my kids hadn't heard of those two, their response might be the same as yours. Who cares. I'm saying when you learn what Alynski was about, and you find that people really admired him, it says something. Just because he wasn't as "big" as Hitler and just because YOU don't know who he is doesn't take away from the point of this.
I'm astonished at the stupidity of this.

"Wasn't as big as Hitler".
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:54 AM   #287
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Why?
Because the KKK is hate group that killed blacks and terrorized minorities.

Saul Alinsky tried to help minorities and workers better their lives.
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I'm astonished at the stupidity of this.

"Wasn't as big as Hitler".
Brock, your easily astonished by things you don't understand.
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Because the KKK is hate group that killed blacks and terrorized minorities.

Saul Alinsky tried to help minorities and workers better their lives.
OMG. That's how YOU see it. Other might see it differently. Hence the outrage.
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OMG. That's how YOU see it. Other might see it differently. Hence the outrage.
Could you explain more about how you see it?
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Brock, your easily astonished by things you don't understand.
Ah, now you are the smartest guy in the room.

This is a great thread.
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Could you explain more about how you see it?
He is really scared and paranoid and will believe silly things.
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Brock, your easily astonished by things you don't understand.
I'll let you have your fantasy that your're making some kind of misunderstood point that's over my head when you compare Hitler and Stalin, two unapologetic murderers of millions, to a guy who wrote a book. It's not a point worth arguing.
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I'll let you have your fantasy that your're making some kind of misunderstood point that's over my head when you compare Hitler and Stalin, two unapologetic murderers of millions, to a guy who wrote a book. It's not a point worth arguing.
I was not comparing them apples to apples. It was a poorly drawn analogy, admittedly, but an analogy nonetheless. I was trying to illustrate the concept that even if someone hasn't heard of someone, it doesn't mean that person was insignificant. It seems that you base the importance of Alinsky to his "notariety" rather than what his philosophy was and who subscribes to that philosophy.

This is why I hate arguing on this board. People seize on non-substantive shit to win an argument, rather than to just think about the intended meaning.
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I was not comparing them apples to apples. It was a poorly drawn analogy, admittedly, but an analogy nonetheless. I was trying to illustrate the concept that even if someone hasn't heard of someone, it doesn't mean that person was insignificant. It seems that you base the importance of Alinsky to his "notariety" rather than what his philosophy was and who subscribes to that philosophy.

This is why I hate arguing on this board. People seize on non-substantive shit to win an argument, rather than to just think about the intended meaning.
I agree with you in terms of your original point. But you did directly compare the substantive worth of Alinsky with a KKK Grand Knight.
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I was not comparing them apples to apples. It was a poorly drawn analogy, admittedly, but an analogy nonetheless. I was trying to illustrate the concept that even if someone hasn't heard of someone, it doesn't mean that person was insignificant. It seems that you base the importance of Alinsky to his "notariety" rather than what his philosophy was and who subscribes to that philosophy.

This is why I hate arguing on this board. People seize on non-substantive shit to win an argument, rather than to just think about the intended meaning.
You should hate arguing on this board, because you aren't very good at it. The reason you used Hitler and Stalin is because you couldn't think of an actual analogous right wing equivalent.

I don't care about winning an argument, but don't try to tell me that throwing Hitler and Stalin into your argument is non-substantive. You probably thought it was pretty stupid when liberals were doing it with Bush.
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People seize on non-substantive shit to win an argument, rather than to just think about the intended meaning.
It was the basis of your argument.

I hate talking to people...they seize on things I say rather than what I meant to say.

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You should hate arguing on this board, because you aren't very good at it. The reason you used Hitler and Stalin is because you couldn't think of an actual analogous right wing equivalent.

I don't care about winning an argument, but don't try to tell me that throwing Hitler and Stalin into your argument is non-substantive. You probably thought it was pretty stupid when liberals were doing it with Bush.
You don't argue on the board, wtf? You just issue guttural statements.
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