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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:16 PM   #31
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Oh, did you foresee the rapid drop in violent crime?
People who were against repealing of gun control laws saw things like this happening.

It's not rocket science.

This pussy driving around in his car should be put in prison. Plain and simple.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:17 PM   #32
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:18 PM   #33
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Still not seeing how the situation is typical of neighborhood watches.
Because that's not really what he meant. He meant typical white people. Its ok for blacks to stereotype whites, black people cant be racist.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:18 PM   #34
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I'm sure the teenager calmly explained that he was a resident of the neighborhood and that he was just on a trip from the store. I'm sure that his reaction to the shooter when confronted initially, and then later when the gun was pulled was nothing but polite and professional and had nothing to do with why he got shot.

This story isn't written in a biased and inflammatory fashion what so ever, "he was a nice boy, all he wanted was to be an airline pilot, and was just getting some skittles for his wittle brother". I'm sure when we hear the other side of the story, things might become just a tad bit more clear. I'm also sure it might explain why the shooter has yet to be charged, police departments aren't that stupid, they know the situation and if there is not just cause there will certainly be a media circus involved.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:18 PM   #35
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...and those who carry legally?
take theirs too?
I already addressed this. Put in a locked facility for their use. Target shooting, competition, and hunting.

I'm not sure I understand your point.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:19 PM   #36
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Because that's not really what he meant. He meant typical white people. Its ok for blacks to stereotype whites, black people cant be racist.
Out of jail already?
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:20 PM   #37
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I'm sure the teenager calmly explained that he was a resident of the neighborhood and that he was just on a trip from the store. I'm sure that his reaction to the shooter when confronted initially, and then later when the gun was pulled was nothing but polite and professional and had nothing to do with why he got shot.

This story isn't written in a biased and inflammatory fashion what so ever, "he was a nice boy, all he wanted was to be an airline pilot, and was just getting some skittles for his wittle brother". I'm sure when we hear the other side of the story, things might become just a tad bit more clear. I'm also sure it might explain why the shooter has yet to be charged, police departments aren't that stupid, they know the situation and if there is not just cause there will certainly a media circus.
Find me the gun the kid had and then you have a point.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:20 PM   #38
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this is no case for gun control dude. Most people who carry legally don't do this, it will happen but on a very very small scale. But you take away good people's guns, then that will mean only criminals and cops will have them and that would be bad, very very bad.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:20 PM   #39
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People who were against repealing of gun control laws saw things like this happening.

It's not rocket science.
Just so we’re clear, you “foresaw” the occurrence violent crime dropping with the repeal of gun control laws? Because that’s what happened.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:21 PM   #40
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I'm sure the teenager calmly explained that he was a resident of the neighborhood and that he was just on a trip from the store. I'm sure that his reaction to the shooter when confronted initially, and then later when the gun was pulled was nothing but polite and professional and had nothing to do with why he got shot.

This story isn't written in a biased and inflammatory fashion what so ever, "he was a nice boy, all he wanted was to be an airline pilot, and was just getting some skittles for his wittle brother". I'm sure when we hear the other side of the story, things might become just a tad bit more clear. I'm also sure it might explain why the shooter has yet to be charged, police departments aren't that stupid, they know the situation and if there is not just cause there will certainly be a media circus involved.
He must have dropped a "cracker mother****er" on that watch captain somewhere along the line.
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Out of jail already?
I never went back, and the way things are looking Im not going to.
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And yeah, I'm more for dumbass control than I am for gun control.
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Because that's not really what he meant. He meant typical white people. Its ok for blacks to stereotype whites, black people cant be racist.
I think that's what he meant. But maybe he realized that would be a similar type of prejudice that probably got the young man in this story killed.
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I already addressed this. Put in a locked facility for their use. Target shooting, competition, and hunting.

I'm not sure I understand your point.
oh, it's no problem; i'm not trying to raise a stink etc.

My point was should those who can carry legally, be allowed? or were you saying that both those who carry illegally AND those who carry legally should be severely punished. I guess, more importantly, were you saying that there's no difference between somone who currently is not allowed to carry, and those who can?

I agree; if somone carries unlawfully, give them severe punishment. But, I think people who can carry legally, should be able to do so w/out fear of going to prison etc.

hopefully I'm wording this correctly. i'm jumping in and out of multiple threads.
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Just so we’re clear, you “foresaw” the occurrence violent crime dropping with the repeal of gun control laws? Because that’s what’s happened.
Gun control laws have increased in New York City.

I feel safe walking around knowing that there are very few concealed weapons.

If you guys want to live next to this pussy with a gun who shot an unarmed boy then by all means.
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