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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:24 PM   #46
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oh, it's no problem; i'm not trying to raise a stink etc.

My point was should those who can carry legally, be allowed? or were you saying that both those who carry illegally AND those who carry legally should be severely punished.

I agree; if somone carries unlawfully, give them severe punishment. But, I think people who can carry legally, should be able to do so w/out fear of going to prison etc.
I see very little reason if any for any person at any time to be carrying a gun.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:25 PM   #47
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Real men don't use guns.

Gun ownership in this country has lead to such a growth in pussy ass bitches who think they're tough.

I'm just happy I live in a place where we settle problems with our minds.
Wow. I bet you getting tired of getting your ass kicked all the time.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:26 PM   #48
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Keep guns for hunting and target practice in a closed/locked facility for the time they are to be used.

It is simple enough.

Sever punishment for those caught with guns illegally. It works where I live.
So we're going to let the government start controlling and withholding our personal possessions?

And you think this would really be a simple solution?
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:26 PM   #49
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I see very little reason if any for any person at any time to be carrying a gun.
cool.
I look at it like those who are going to carry illegally, will do so regardless of law. I just wouldn't want to trust/hope that everyone is obeying the law if such a law banning carrying of any kind were to be implemented..

no biggie. thanks for your viewpoint.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:28 PM   #50
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The violent crime in NYC must be much lower than all the other cities with looser gun laws.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:29 PM   #51
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cool.
I look at it like those who are going to carry illegally, will do so regardless of law. I just wouldn't want to trust/hope that everyone is obeying the law if such a law banning carrying of any kind were to be implemented..

no biggie. thanks for your viewpoint.
I understand that position as well. But I'm willing to risk having to deal with people carrying illegally then I would have to be concerned with EVERYONE being trigger happy. Which is what we live in now. It just isn't worth it.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:30 PM   #52
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I believe the "neighborhood watch captain" should be added to the death pool.

And rightly so.

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:30 PM   #53
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Ha ha, yeah. We should do things the way they do it up there.


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Updated statistics obtained by NBC New York on Tuesday show that at least 67 people were shot between 12 a.m. Friday and 11:59 p.m. Monday. That includes nine on Friday, 10 on Saturday, 33 on Sunday and 15 on Monday.

Preliminary numbers indicate as many as 10 were killed.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:31 PM   #54
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The violent crime in NYC must be much lower than all the other cities with looser gun laws.
You would be correct.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:32 PM   #55
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:35 PM   #56
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:36 PM   #57
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Gun control laws have increased in New York City.

I feel safe walking around knowing that there are very few concealed weapons.

If you guys want to live next to this pussy with a gun who shot an unarmed boy then by all means.
How is it that you know there are very few concealed weapons? Do you have X-ray vision, or are you randomly frisking people? Or are you saying that because there are laws, you assume that people will automatically abide by them?

I have no intention of living next to this pussy. I'd have no qualms hanging him from a rope for what he did. But his behavior isn't indicative of a gun owner. People kill others each day with their vehicles too. More than guns even. That doesn't mean that outlawing vehicles would be a practical solution.
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Wickedson, I've never really had a problem with you, but your and idiot on this. Stupid people will find a way to do stupid things with or without guns. Stupid people driving cars kill more people a year than guns do. Let's get rid of cars. When the government tries to take away peoples guns, thats when you will see the next civil war.
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How is it that you know there are very few concealed weapons? Do you have X-ray vision, or are you randomly frisking people? Or are you saying that because there are laws, you assume that people will automatically abide by them?

I have no intention of living next to this pussy. I'd have no qualms hanging him from a rope for what he did. But his behavior isn't indicative of a gun owner. People kill others each day with their vehicles too. More than guns even. That doesn't mean that outlawing vehicles would be a practical solution.
When a high profile NY area resident Plaxico Burress gets put in prison for nearly two years with no intent whatsoever a good number of people wise up.
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