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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-24-2012, 06:46 PM   #1291
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being followed does not justify throwing punches
If someone is following you and you have no idea of their intentions and they don't make their intentions clear, you have every right to protect yourself. Black people do get scare you know despite popular belief. The kid was possibly scare out of his mind that this big dude was following him and so he felt he had to go into protection mode. I can not fault any person who would do that.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:48 PM   #1292
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If someone is following you and you have no idea of their intentions and they don't make their intentions clear, you have every right to protect yourself. Black people do get scare you know despite popular belief. The kid was possibly scare out of his mind that this big dude was following him and so he felt he had to go into protection mode. I can not fault any person who would do that.

So you don't think this kid had any idea who this guy was huh?
Dude could have probably ran 15-20 mph faster than the fat Hispanic guy...


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Old 03-24-2012, 06:48 PM   #1293
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you would find that no one has that would have pulled a gun. Zimmerman did not fear for his life unless he is that afraid of black males and he has proven his is not. He was motivated by the young mans race and was not going to let him get away. He knew he had a gun and knew he could use it and claim self-defense, or maybe it was premeditated and he knew he was going to shoot him. Remember on the tapes he said they always get f%^&ing get away. Thats shows a mindset and a feeling towards the type of person he was pursuing.
JFC, I don't even know what to say to this statement. Complete ignorance.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:51 PM   #1294
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Can you give me a link to where this is stated by any witness or by Zimmerman?
That was stated by his girlfriend who was talking to him on the phone at the time. She never said that zimmerman answered that question. I'm sure that if Zimmerman had told the young man he was the nieghborhood watch this would have been defused with niether person being in this situation. There are to many people acting like the kid was not supposed to be there when he had a right to be there.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:53 PM   #1295
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So you don't think this kid had any idea who this guy was huh?
Dude could have probably ran 15-20 mph faster than the fat Hispanic guy...


Cut the horse shit man
No, not racist at all.



So you believe that Martin started a fight with a guy 10 years older than him that also outweighed him by 100 pounds? Come on. Even you aren't that naive.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:56 PM   #1296
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No, not racist at all.



So you believe that Martin started a fight with a guy 10 years older than him that also outweighed him by 100 pounds? Come on. Even you aren't that naive.
If he out weighed him by 100 lbs and was 17 years old I bet he could have ran 15-20mph faster...


They always say it takes a racist to be able to identify one
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:58 PM   #1297
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There are to many people acting like the kid was not supposed to be there when he had a right to be there.
I don't think anyone feels that way. In the OP it says he was there visiting his father. I don't think anyone is arguing that.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:58 PM   #1298
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If he out weighed him by 100 lbs and was 17 years old I bet he could have ran 15-20mph faster...


They always say it takes a racist to be able to identify one
Heh, nice. My comment was tongue in cheek, hence the smiley, but I'm sure nobody noticed your quick response to save face.

Can people even run 20 mph? I know I can't.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:59 PM   #1299
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If he out weighed him by 100 lbs and was 17 years old I bet he could have ran 15-20mph faster...


They always say it takes a racist to be able to identify one
15-20 mph? The **** are you talking about?
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:59 PM   #1300
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No, not racist at all.


I'm a fat hispanic and I was not offended nor did I feel that was racist.

How was that racist?
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Heh, nice. My comment was tongue in cheek, hence the smiley, but I'm sure nobody noticed your quick response to save face.

Can people even run 20 mph? I know I can't.
I think Bolt hit 28 MPH.
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:01 PM   #1302
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That was stated by his girlfriend who was talking to him on the phone at the time. She never said that zimmerman answered that question. I'm sure that if Zimmerman had told the young man he was the nieghborhood watch this would have been defused with niether person being in this situation. There are to many people acting like the kid was not supposed to be there when he had a right to be there.
I read the girlfriends statement. First she came forward days after the attack. Which right there makes her story slightly fishy. Not saying it isn't true just fishy. Second, if what she states is true she was not on the phone for the entire time. She said she lost connection with him. Could he have told him during the time of the lost connection that he was neighborhood watch? Maybe, maybe not.
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:02 PM   #1303
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If he out weighed him by 100 lbs and was 17 years old I bet he could have ran 15-20mph faster...


They always say it takes a racist to be able to identify one
Running 20 mph faster than the Empire State building is world class speed. You need to calibrate your reality.
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I don't even see where this can be considered racial at all...

I think this was carried over from the initial reports when they reported it was a white guy who killed the kid.
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