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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:24 AM   #1021
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Why would you not count Nebraska?
Because facts ruin his arguments.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:24 AM   #1022
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Because every conference was tripping over themselves to get TCU in their conference.
TCU has 2 national titles, 2 BCS appearances and a Heisman trophy winner.

Texas A&M has Yell Leaders and no chick cheerleaders.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:24 AM   #1023
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I'm not counting Nebraska.

Of course they have more tradition than any of the schools mentioned.

But WVU and TCU have more athletic success than Missouri and A&M.

And it really isn't close.
Only a complete imbecile would think West Virginia has more football tradition than Texas A&M.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:25 AM   #1024
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Lost in the fire drill earlier this week of a higher end Big 12 basketball program losing its head coach to a low end SEC basketball program was Silve's comment that the SEC's media contract is now open for renegotiation after the expansion
But, clearly, adding A&M and Mizzou is a detriment to the SEC. They'll likely renegotiate a smaller, less lucrative contract.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:26 AM   #1025
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Why would you not count Nebraska?
Because there was no movement on a new media deal when Nebraska ran away from the conference.

Nothing happened.

The new media deal came when the dead weight of MU and A&M left.

I have no problem admitting losing Nebraksa was bad for the conference. But I'm not going to get hung up on a school that can't beat Texas thus leaves.

What can one do?
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:27 AM   #1026
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But, clearly, adding A&M and Mizzou is a detriment to the SEC. They'll likely renegotiate a smaller, less lucrative contract.
Indeed, I'm sure the numbers will bolster his assertion that membership in the Big 12 is just as lucrative.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:30 AM   #1027
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Only a complete imbecile would think West Virginia has more football tradition than Texas A&M.
In the last decade WVU is 4-3 in bowl games with 3 BCS wins. In that same time Texas A&M is 1-5 and hasn't even sniffed the BCS.

Army was good at football once too.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:30 AM   #1028
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Let's not pretend that SEC is some down grade. It's obviously an upgrade to being a member of the Big 12. WVU, no doubt wanted the spot Missouri was offered before even considering the Big 12.

If you were so satisfied with this new mega conference the Big 12 has become then you wouldn't be trying so hard to make a case that the Big 12 is better off.

"Look the Big 12 is better guys! Historic powerhouse _TCU_, another Texas school is here to save us!"
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:31 AM   #1029
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But, clearly, adding A&M and Mizzou is a detriment to the SEC. They'll likely renegotiate a smaller, less lucrative contract.
I guess we'll have to see what the per school payout is.

Sucks that teams in the SEC can't go out and get more on their own though.

Oh well...
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:31 AM   #1030
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$20 plus million per plus the freedom to bring in your own 3rd tier media rights.

Doesn't get much more American than that.
I totally agree. The majority of the schools were getting a raw deal. Those with options left for better deals.

Those that stayed were given better deals as a result. The whole thing is very American. Throughout history, the masses have benefitted from the rugged individualists who were willing to risk the security that comes with subservience in order to find a better lot in life.

Everyone wins here but Oklahoma and Texas, and they made their beds. Besides, they can afford new beds and have been seen talking to furniture salesmen, so they'll be a-ok.
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In the last decade WVU is 4-3 in bowl games with 3 BCS wins. In that same time Texas A&M is 1-5 and hasn't even sniffed the BCS.

Army was good at football once too.

You do remember the running jokes about the winner of the Big East in football the past 5 or so years right?
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:34 AM   #1032
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Lost in the fire drill earlier this week of a higher end Big 12 basketball program losing its head coach to a low end SEC basketball program was Silve's comment that the SEC's media contract is now open for renegotiation after the expansion
And there was an article on cbssports that suggested the new SEC contract would make the Big 12 contract look like .47 cents in the ashtray. I believe Slive did say negotiations had already begun. Within several years at the latest the Big 12 contract will be dwarfed by nearly every other major conference, especially once the PAC 12 and SEC both implement their own networks.
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Let's not pretend that SEC is some down grade. It's obviously an upgrade to being a member of the Big 12. WVU, no doubt wanted the spot Missouri was offered before even considering the Big 12.

If you were so satisfied with this new mega conference the Big 12 has become then you wouldn't be trying so hard to make a case that the Big 12 is better off.

"Look the Big 12 is better guys! Historic powerhouse _TCU_, another Texas school is here to save us!"
Every conference has their anchor schools. PAC has USC and UCLA.... SEC has Alabama and Florida.... Big 12 has Texas and Oklahoma.... BIG has Michigan and OSU.....

There's no situation that is different than any other.

The only reason I'm making an argument is that SG was claiming that Texas and OK were the only ones who weren't "better off". Well now the SEC schools have to split the same $$ with 2 more schools. Why aren't they now not "better off"?

It's just hypocritical. No big deal.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:35 AM   #1034
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You do remember the running jokes about the winner of the Big East in football the past 5 or so years right?
Yea, those jokes would have made sense had they lost their BCS games.

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Old 03-28-2012, 10:36 AM   #1035
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I guess we'll have to see what the per school payout is.

Sucks that teams in the SEC can't go out and get more on their own though.

Oh well...
If going out and getting more on your own is so important, why aren't you advocating going independent? Isn't that antithetical to the idea of conference affiliation?
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