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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

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Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-28-2012, 08:05 PM   #2026
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I recall that being a pretty big deal several years ago, IIRC. I suppose if one is looking for outrage, they may need to travel back 5 years or so.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:10 PM   #2027
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This story shows just how ****ed up our media has become. Zimmerman was tried and convicted by NBC and others minutes after the story broke. Don't get me wrong, after a fair trial if he is found guilty of murder he should pay the prices. Also I think it's tragic a 17 yr old kid los this life to such non-sense. But all this race-baiting by some African-American uh-hum, leaders, is pure bullshit. They are so desperate to make this a white vs. black think it's sick and it shows who the real racists in this case are. And since there wasn't a white guy involved I'd say it's hard to blame Whitey.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:13 PM   #2028
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I recall that being a pretty big deal several years ago, IIRC. I suppose if one is looking for outrage, they may need to travel back 5 years or so.
Or a month.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:25 PM   #2029
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Pretty sure it was said that Zimmerman received medical attention at the scene but refused to go to the hospital. That could explain why he looks clean. However, I agree, that for someone who's excuse is he was in the midst of being beat to death he looks to be in excellent health. Unless they gave him a change of clothes, they must have done an on-site "Tide" treatment to the grass stains.
Could be but looking at that video it sure doesn't look like he was fighting for his life. You would think if he had a broken nose there would be blood on shirt\clothes and there doesn't appear to be any gashes to the back of the head.

Maybe this is why the lead investigator didn't believe his story.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:33 PM   #2030
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So the witness who saw Martin beating up Zimmerman is wrong?

Visible or not a witness still saw Martin assaulting Zimmerman.
Usually in cases like this the cops will take pictures of the victim's wounds, bruises etc. We will see if they did and if they are released.

By looking at the video and still pictures you sure don't see any bruises on his face which would indicate the beating he took.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:10 PM   #2032
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Too bad his phone # wasn't posted.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:12 PM   #2033
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Usually in cases like this the cops will take pictures of the victim's wounds, bruises etc. We will see if they did and if they are released.

By looking at the video and still pictures you sure don't see any bruises on his face which would indicate the beating he took.
Interesting. Wonder if they also figured out where each guy was standing when he was shot.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:27 PM   #2034
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Media hype, emotions, politics & race aside... i'm still not seeing or hearing anything that makes me believe Zimmermans story.

And honestly, the pics being thrown out there a few days ago of Martin with gold teef & saggies was a non-factor to me, that doesnt make him any more of a thug lifer, than me running around at 17 in my best Axl Rose getup made me a manic-depressive cokehead.

The teenager had some minor black marks on his record, but so did the adult Zimmerman, so thats a wash to me as well... in short, Zimmermans story sounds less plausible with each passing day imo.

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That sure didn't look like a guy who had been in a fight for his life.
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Media hype, emotions, politics & race aside... i'm still not seeing or hearing anything that makes me believe Zimmermans story.

And honestly, the pics being thrown out there a few days ago of Martin with gold teef & saggies was a non-factor to me, that doesnt make him any more of a thug lifer, than me running around at 17 in my best Axl Rose getup made me a manic-depressive cokehead.

The teenager had some minor black marks on his record, but so did the adult Zimmerman, so thats a wash to me as well... in short, Zimmermans story sounds less plausible with each passing day imo.

Flame away, idgaf.
I dun think anyone is gonna flame. You make a well thought out argument that was not based on race or emotion.
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Usually in cases like this the cops will take pictures of the victim's wounds, bruises etc. We will see if they did and if they are released.

By looking at the video and still pictures you sure don't see any bruises on his face which would indicate the beating he took.
There's no requirement for bruises if he believed his life was in danger. You don't have to wait until you're within an inch of losing your life to pull the trigger justifiably.
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Would this case even make national news if they were honest and left race out of it?
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Would this case even make national news if they were honest and left race out of it?
Yes. It wouldn't be anywhere as big as it is, but yes, it would make national news. A man killed someone and he wasn't even indicted. That would make news.
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Yes. It wouldn't be anywhere as big as it is, but yes, it would make national news. A man killed someone and he wasn't even indicted. That would make news.
There were 34 self defense killings in Detroit alone last year... I highly doubt that all of them resulted in indictments... and I never heard a word about any of them in the national news... did you?
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