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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-31-2012, 12:26 AM   #2281
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Seriously, chiefsfootballfan, that indicates Martin was on top and putting the beat down easily on Zimmerman because he was stronger and in better shape. It could have been a very short period with just a few blows and Zimmerman didn't have a chance. Just a possibility.
perhaps. I don't see it that way. the mortician says there is no indication, he could have been on the bottom blocking or even just astounded at this dude jumping him for whatever he said. I think that is more likely right now because this NW dude is already a known agressive. I think the fact he and his GF filed against each other simply reveals yet the same pattern of an agressive surrounding himself with a fellow agressive of the opposite sex. heaven, maybe for him. for a lil while anyway. but this dude smells like dirt to me.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:14 AM   #2282
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Strip Club Cancels Party In Honor Of Trayvon Martin

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:16 AM   #2283
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:52 AM   #2284
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Does not matter... It does not justify felony assault... If a security guard at the mall is following you and you don't like it at the mall is it ok to break his nose, dive on him and beat his head into the floor?

A security guard is no more of a cop than a Neighborhood watch man is

Vigilante Justice is not shooting someone who is on top of you pounding your head into the sidewalk... Vigilante Justice would have been him shooting at him 50 yards away.

Again your stupidity amazes me. A security guard is HIRED to PROTECT a store. A security guard`s job is to PROTECT the store . A NHW person is a VOLUNTEER, CITIZEN who is not contractually responsible for there neighborhood, just watching it. Any ****ing idiot with out a bias they are trying to support can see there is a big difference between the two in terms of responsibility and liability. You have continually given Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt, you and the other Right wingers. At the same time you continue to the paint the victim as the bad person, or at the very least he got what he deserved..not giving him the benefit of the doubt. What a ****ing joke you and the rest of your KLAN are.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:24 AM   #2285
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I think there is a missing piece to the story, that we'll never fully know. Something between when Zimmerman ignored the advice of the 911 operator, decided to follow and confront Martin, and the fight.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:29 AM   #2286
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I think there is a missing piece to the story, that we'll never fully know. Something between when Zimmerman ignored the advice of the 911 operator, decided to follow and confront Martin, and the fight.
Do we even know that he followed and confronted Martin? It's a reasonable assumption, but is it any more than that at this point?
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:51 AM   #2287
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This was one of the first comments on the article and I agree with it wholeheartedly.
Yeah, that gangsta wannabe deserved to get killed. One less blac...I mean "gangsta" is better for us (whites) all.

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Old 03-31-2012, 09:57 AM   #2288
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Hearing stuff about how this kid was a thug makes me feel a little uneasy. As if an argument is being made that he had it coming.
Don't you know the game ? If you're a black male and look like a "gangsta", you deserve to be killed and have your reputation smeared.


Oh, if ol' Tray looked like these fine all American (white) gentlemen.




Never mind the fact that they had dreams of flying a commercial jet into a building in N.Y.

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Old 03-31-2012, 10:05 AM   #2289
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Don't you know the game ? If you're a black male and look like a "gangsta", you deserve to be killed and have your reputation smeared.


Oh, if ol' Tray looked like these fine all American (white) gentlemen.




Never mind the fact that they had dreams of flying a commercial jet into a building in N.Y.
I think I will just keep posting this for several people in this thread. It seems to fit so many of them.

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Old 03-31-2012, 10:21 AM   #2291
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Do we even know that he followed and confronted Martin? It's a reasonable assumption, but is it any more than that at this point?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...in-killing.cnn
This eyewitness claims there were a few scuffles and they happened at the same place. It sounds to me that this is also in an area that is far away from Trayvon's car. If Zimmerman's account is accurate, you'd expect that there would be some kind of visible confrontation near Zimmerman's car. Somehow the two ended up there. And I believe Zimmerman's account even suggests that he said "Do you have a problem? You do now."

We know with absolute certainty he pursued Martin, based on the 911 call. We can then reasonably assume he continued pursuit after the call, as the confrontation appeared to occur away from the vehicle. And based on his account, he did initiate a confrontation (and it's reasonable to ask if his words were much harsher than what he claims).
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:34 AM   #2292
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This eyewitness claims there were a few scuffles and they happened at the same place. It sounds to me that this is also in an area that is far away from Trayvon's car. If Zimmerman's account is accurate, you'd expect that there would be some kind of visible confrontation near Zimmerman's car. Somehow the two ended up there. And I believe Zimmerman's account even suggests that he said "Do you have a problem? You do now."

We know with absolute certainty he pursued Martin, based on the 911 call. We can then reasonably assume he continued pursuit after the call, as the confrontation appeared to occur away from the vehicle. And based on his account, he did initiate a confrontation (and it's reasonable to ask if his words were much harsher than what he claims).
So it's just an assumption.
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:37 AM   #2293
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So it's just an assumption.
It is. I think it's a logical assumption. There are a lot of assumptions being made here, I don't think we'll ever have a certainty in this case.
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So it's just an assumption.
By zimmerman's own 911 call, we know Martin started to run away.

We either have to assume Zimmerman pursued, or Martin changed his mind.
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perhaps. I don't see it that way. the mortician says there is no indication, he could have been on the bottom blocking or even just astounded at this dude jumping him for whatever he said. I think that is more likely right now because this NW dude is already a known agressive. I think the fact he and his GF filed against each other simply reveals yet the same pattern of an agressive surrounding himself with a fellow agressive of the opposite sex. heaven, maybe for him. for a lil while anyway. but this dude smells like dirt to me.
Then you've allowed the media to make your opinion. You'd never make a jury.
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