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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 04-02-2012, 11:06 AM   #2416
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I don't know where you guys learned to fight but I learned if I started swinging not to stop until the other person was either out or had quit fighting. I've never just hit someone just once in a fight and if the "attack" was what Zimmerman says it was then Trayvon would have hit him more than once too.

I've seen a guy drop another guy with jab then stand over him and say "And that was just a left jab bitch". Not everyone puts their head down and swings wildy until their tank is on E. That's actually pretty stupid.

Many fights end or really never start because of only 1 good shot or 1 good sucker punch.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:15 AM   #2417
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I don't know where you guys learned to fight but I learned if I started swinging not to stop until the other person was either out or had quit fighting. I've never just hit someone just once in a fight and if the "attack" was what Zimmerman says it was then Trayvon would have hit him more than once too.
I "learned" on the mat and in the ring that swinging wildly gets your clock cleaned by someone that knows what they're doing.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:16 AM   #2418
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:18 AM   #2419
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I've seen a guy drop another guy with jab then stand over him and say "And that was just a left jab bitch". Not everyone puts their head down and swings wildy until their tank is on E. That's actually pretty stupid.

Many fights end or really never start because of only 1 good shot or 1 good sucker punch.
Yup, seen a lot of scuffles end with one punch. The jaw or end of the nose are the best spots to end it with one punch too.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:18 AM   #2420
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:20 AM   #2421
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:21 AM   #2422
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I "learned" on the mat and in the ring that swinging wildly gets your clock cleaned by someone that knows what they're doing.
Not stopping swinging doesn't equal swinging wildly. If you go out there with the windmills going then you're going to get your ass beat. If you throw proper punches nonstop 9 times out of 10, you're going to be standing over the other person.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:25 AM   #2424
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:27 AM   #2425
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I've seen a guy drop another guy with jab then stand over him and say "And that was just a left jab bitch". Not everyone puts their head down and swings wildy until their tank is on E. That's actually pretty stupid.

Many fights end or really never start because of only 1 good shot or 1 good sucker punch.
I agree with the last sentence. Most of the time the victor is the one who ges off a good blow first.

But like I said to Radar, punching nonstop until the fight is over (if you know how to throw proper punches) will end the fight with you being the victor 9 times out of 10. Most people in this world have no idea of how to fight or how to react to being rocked in the face. Most people are soft (which is why I get a chuckle out of the psuedo tough s out here)
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I don't know where you guys learned to fight but I learned if I started swinging not to stop until the other person was either out or had quit fighting. I've never just hit someone just once in a fight and if the "attack" was what Zimmerman says it was then Trayvon would have hit him more than once too.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:57 AM   #2427
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Not stopping swinging doesn't equal swinging wildly. If you go out there with the windmills going then you're going to get your ass beat. If you throw proper punches nonstop 9 times out of 10, you're going to be standing over the other person.
Every time you throw a punch you’re leaving yourself open. If you’ve gotten away with this in the past count yourself lucky that you just haven’t run across the guy that can make you pay for your sloppy fighting technique.
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In a week of leaked high school disciplinary records, police reports and police station surveillance video in the war over public perception of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman, more details have emerged about Zimmerman’s history of violence.

Zimmerman, the 28-year-old Sanford, Fla., neighborhood watch volunteer who shot the unarmed 17-year-old Martin to death last month, was fired from a job securing illegal house parties for “being too aggressive,” according to the New York Daily News, which quoted a former colleague of Zimmerman’s. According to the co-worker, Zimmerman worked for two agencies that provided security for house parties from 2001 to 2005.

“Usually he was just a cool guy,” said the former co-worker, who the newspaper didn't name. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When dude snapped, he snapped.” The Daily News said Zimmerman earned $50 to $100 a night for the parties. He was fired for being too aggressive with patrons.

“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the newspaper quoted the former co-worker as saying. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”
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I agree with the last sentence. Most of the time the victor is the one who ges off a good blow first.

But like I said to Radar, punching nonstop until the fight is over (if you know how to throw proper punches) will end the fight with you being the victor 9 times out of 10. Most people in this world have no idea of how to fight or how to react to being rocked in the face. Most people are soft (which is why I get a chuckle out of the psuedo tough s out here)
I'm pretty soft, I guess. Haven't been in a fight since junior high...which I did win. Mostly, I don't get in situations where I'll need to fight, and I've been pretty good about talking my way out of it. I got mugged in KCK once though, three dudes. Nothing I could do on that one. It happened really fast and it was all a blur. I'd like to say I went all Bruce Willis on em but basically I had my ass on the ground and wallet gone in 10 seconds.

I don't consider myself a pussy, I just don't see much point in fighting. Never have.
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Every time you throw a punch you’re leaving yourself open. If you’ve gotten away with this in the past count yourself lucky that you just haven’t run across the guy that can make you pay for your sloppy fighting technique.
Most street fights last under a minute in my experience. It's all about getting a solid first blow and then if you get 3-4 more the other person usually doesn't want to fight anymore.

If I was boxing, then yea it would be sloppy. For street fights where the point is to end the situation as fast as possible and without injury, not so much.
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