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***Offical 2012 STL Cardinals World Champions Thread ***

St. Louis Cardinals: 7 reasons fans should feel good about 2012

Posted Wednesday, October 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM

St. Louis Cardinals fans are likely feeling deflated after the collapse that put an end to the team's dreams of a World Series repeat, but there is good reason to be excited.

With all of the odds against them, the Cardinals managed to push their 2012 season beyond any anticipated boundary.

Given all of the season's changes and the adversity the team had to fight through, the fact that they played in October at all was an anomaly in itself. On paper, it made sense for the Cardinals to be in the playoffs, but few saw them as a true threat.
As the season continued, even fans began to doubt as they watched the team seemingly crumble in June and July. When the Cardinals finally came to life in September they went 11-5 in the last 16 games of the season to lock up the second Wild Card position in its inaugural year.

That run, despite it's crushing end in Cincinnati in Game 7 of the National League Championship Series, lots of good came from the Cardinals' season and playoff run.
Following in no particular order are 10 reasons Cardinals fans have to be excited about the 2013 season.

Trevor Rosenthal
When rookie fireballer Trevor Rosenthal made his first trip to St. Louis, it was obvious almost instantly that he was something special.
Between his 100 mph fastball and the general inability for almost anyone to hit off of him, he became a huge part of the Cardinals playoff run.

He pitched in a total of 19 regular season games before the 22-year-old rookie from Lee's Summit, Mo. got his first taste of postseason baseball and he put on quite a show.
In 8.2 IP over seven postseason appearances, Rosenthal held opponents to only two hits and no runs.
It's possible that down the stretch he may have already earned his spot in the rotation for 2013.

Shelby Miller
The long-coveted fastball pitching prospect Shelby Miller also made his first trip to St. Louis in 2012 and put on a good show.
In 13.2 IP over six regular season games, Miller surrendered only two runs on nine hits. His postseason performance was more of the same with two runs on four hits in 3.2 IP.

Despite a dismal first half of the season in Memphis, Miller got himself together and still managed to make one major league start before the end of the season -- a very impressive start at that.
Against the Cincinnati Reds in the final game of the regular season, Miller posted 5.2 hitless innings. He gave up no runs and collected his first major league win.

Expect to see a lot more of Miller in St. Louis early in 2013.

Joe Kelly
When Joe Kelly made his major league debut on June 10, few could have guessed the importance he would play throughout the remainder of the 2012 season.
Kelly started 16 games for the Cardinals this season filling in for Jaime Garcia and Lance Lynn, but it was the postseason when he really came through for his teammates.

When starting pitchers struggled time and again in October, it was Kelly who came to their rescue.
In seven postseason appearances, Kelly threw 7.2 innings and surrendered only two runs on six hits. Kelly came through for the Cardinals from the bullpen.
There's a good chance that could be his home in the future.

Mike Matheny
When the Cardinals hired Mike Matheny to take over for Tony LaRussa, many question bringing in a manager with no experience to such a storied franchise.

He had a few hiccups and growing pains along the way, but for a rookie manager to get his team where Matheny did this year speaks volumes.
His players have a strong respect for Matheny and credit his positive style with being a driving force behind their 2012 success.
True, he didn't get them through the NLCS, but the team made it to an all or nothing Game 7. That's good experience for the players obviously, but also for Matheny. Not only did he learn a lot about managing in the media pressure cooker that is postseason baseball, he also got a taste of what it felt like to win as a manager.

NLCS loss means more drive to win
While the NLCS loss was a good lesson for a young manager, it's an even more important lesson for a young player.
The 2011 championship lit a fire under young players like Lance Lynn and Jon Jay. That fire helped drive them to extremely successful sophomore seasons.

What happened in 2012 will likely do the same for Rosenthal, Miller and Kelly. Their 2013 season may not be like Jay or Lynn's 2012, but now they've gotten a little taste of what it feels like to be a winner.

Both the excitement and the public humbling can be a great experience for any young player.

The run was without several key components
In a season riddled with injuries, none were as crucial as those late in the season.
The loss of Lance Berkman and Rafael Furcal significantly weakened the team's bench. Instead of having Pete Kozma, Allen Craig and Matt Carpenter to pinch hit, the team wound up having to use them in the lineup.

The loss of Jaime Garcia and Jake Westbrook also rocked the Cardinals. Instead of having Lynn and Westbrook also available from the bullpen, Lynn was pushed back into the rotation after a very successful NLDS bullpen stint.

Having gotten as deep into the playoffs as the Cardinals did in spite of the injuries is quite the accomplishment.

They did it without Pujols, LaRussa and Duncan
Few in the world of sports gave the Cardinals a fighting chance when Albert Pujols left the team to play on the west coast. Surely this team couldn't be as good as they were?

Few gave them a chance after longtime manager Tony LaRussa decided it was time to retire.
Few gave them a chance after pitching coach Dave Duncan left the team.
The Cardinals did it despite all of that. That's something any fan should be proud of.

No, they didn't hoist a trophy. There will be no parade or tickertape.
What there is, though, is hope for next year and that will come sooner than you may think.
After all, pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training in just four short months.

From a blog I was sent on twitter: http://www.dailystatesman.com/blogs/...es/entry/50051

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Old 04-04-2012, 08:13 PM   #166
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Amazing that a shitbag like Lohse could be doing this through 6.
He actually was our best pitcher in spring training........well besides Wainright.
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He actually was our best pitcher in spring training........well besides Wainright.
He had the best ERA on the team last year as well.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:37 PM   #169
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Cardinals screwed there.

And is Holliday the biggest pussy in MLB or is he just pretending to act the part tonight?
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:23 PM   #170
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Cardinals screwed there.

And is Holliday the biggest pussy in MLB or is he just pretending to act the part tonight?
I expect you will eat those words this season.
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He usually pitches 3-4 innings and then the next inning gives up 4-5 runs before you can get him out. He got the big contract and the first two years stunk up the joint. How much he pitched in the WS tells you how much the cardinals trust him.

But, we should start giving him more props.
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And is Holliday the biggest pussy in MLB or is he just pretending to act the part tonight?
Judging by last year's postseason, it's the former. Still a great hitter, though.
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Lohse is a nice #3 that got a really bad rap for getting injured immediately after Mozeliak gave him a stupid contract.

He's actually a lot like Jeff Suppan in that his stuff isn't overpowering, but isn't easy to square up either. Another year removed from career-threatening surgery (and pitching for another contract) and I expect he'll have a very nice year for us.

And for anyone that hasn't been to spring training or watched his FSMW interviews, or even saw his LaRussa impression last season - I'd suggest you give rooting for him a try. He's a damn cool guy and a really easy player to pull for.

Keep an eye on Westbrook as well; with a real defense behind him I expect he'll be much more aggressive and much better this season.

This is a very very good ballclub that could win 95 games this season.
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Judging by last year's postseason, it's the former. Still a great hitter, though.
Holliday was one of the 15 most valuable players in the national league based on WAR despite playing only 80% of his team's games last year. In other words - when he was on the field, he was fantastic. And for a guy that's taking so much heat for being a 'pussy'; he still played damn near 4 out of every 5 games his team played despite having appendicitis and tendon damage in his wrist.

If you can't respect Holliday's game, I'm not sure exactly who's you can.
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If they can stay healthy, they very well could win 95 games.


If you could introduce Allen Craigs bat into that lineup, it's gets even tougher. I really wish like hell Shelby was ready to roll this year, but I get not rushing him.
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I think this team could be fun to watch. Could swing the other way tho.



I am excited and hopeful that Freese can stay healthy for the long haul this year.
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If you could introduce Allen Craigs bat into that lineup, it's gets even tougher. I really wish like hell Shelby was ready to roll this year, but I get not rushing him.
Shelby probably is ready to roll this year; but if there's no need, leave him in the minors to refine his breaking stuff. He gets a little fastball happy right now.

Oh, and if you have any Marlins on your fantasy team - trade 'em now. I have no earthly idea how anyone on that squad can hit 30 out. Jesus, that ballpark is a freakin' monster. It's like Petco with a roof.

As for Craig - he'll probably get 300 ABs by the time all is said and done. Beltran and Berkman will all need time off and Jay shouldn't be starting against lefties (putting Beltran in CF and Craig in RF).

As much as it pains me to give Mozeliak credit; this team sure looks put together well.
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