Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > Draft Planet

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-25-2012, 08:46 PM  
Chiefs=Good Chiefs=Good is offline
Training Camp Hero
 
Chiefs=Good's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Casino cash: $2073466
Luke Kuechly

I think this guy is the pick.

He really does everything well. Obviously in the defense he played in he plays more of a DJ type roll, roaming around making plays, but that dosnt mean he cant be a thumper.




A few times in this video he does a great job of disengaging from the blocker and making the stop.
Posts: 4,409
Chiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 08:45 PM   #31
beach tribe beach tribe is offline
I'm Comin'
 
beach tribe's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: ft.lauderdale
Casino cash: $104847
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman View Post
There isn't a LB in this league that can cover the elite TEs, and Kuechly is not going to come in and be that guy.

Taking a LB for his cover skills is absolute moronacy at the top of the draft.
Especially a guy who would be playing LILB for us. That said, I do think he would make a good thumper, just don't know if that's the best route for us to go, all things considered.
__________________
Posts: 16,841
beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.beach tribe is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 08:46 PM   #32
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $1203060
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman View Post
There isn't a LB in this league that can cover the elite TEs, and Kuechly is not going to come in and be that guy.

Taking a LB for his cover skills is absolute moronacy at the top of the draft.
I wouldn't take him for that. I'd take him because he's amazing at a shit ton of things, including that.

His coverage ability as a linebacker is about as good as I've ever seen from a 240 lbs linebacker.

Period.
__________________
Posts: 43,004
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 08:48 PM   #33
milkman milkman is offline
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $1255066
Quote:
Originally Posted by beach tribe View Post
Especially a guy who would be playing LILB for us. That said, I do think he would make a good thumper, just don't know if that's the best route for us to go, all things considered.
The thing is, the idea that he can be a thumper is a projection based in his size.

I would argue that a guy that hasn't shown he is a thumper has the desire to be a thumper.

It took DJ 5 years to finally get to a point that he plays a more physical game than the one he played in college.
__________________
Posts: 62,738
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 08:50 PM   #34
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $1203060
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman View Post
The thing is, the idea that he can be a thumper is a projection based in his size.

I would argue that a guy that hasn't shown he is a thumper has the desire to be a thumper.

It took DJ 5 years to finally get to a point that he plays a more physical game than the one he played in college.
Kuechly sheds blocks EXTREMELY WELL.

I agree that there would be an adjustment period, but Boston College prospects are renowned for developing extremely well into pros.
__________________
Posts: 43,004
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 08:52 PM   #35
milkman milkman is offline
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $1255066
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
I wouldn't take him for that. I'd take him because he's amazing at a shit ton of things, including that.

His coverage ability as a linebacker is about as good as I've ever seen from a 240 lbs linebacker.

Period.
The argument presented by almost everyone here is that he is an elite cover backer.

I'm not replacing a guy that I know is a thumper with a guy that people think can be a thumper becuase of size simply because he's an 'elite cover backer".

There is no such thing.

No LB can cover the elite TEs.

He is better at it than Belcher at this point, but the guys that can hurt you are the ones that no LB can cover.
__________________
Posts: 62,738
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 08:54 PM   #36
milkman milkman is offline
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $1255066
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
Kuechly sheds blocks EXTREMELY WELL.

I agree that there would be an adjustment period, but Boston College prospects are renowned for developing extremely well into pros.
I am not taking a guy that could be a thumper to replace a guy I know is a thumper.

We can argue all night about it, and my position won't change.
__________________
Posts: 62,738
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 08:58 PM   #37
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $1203060
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman View Post
I am not taking a guy that could be a thumper to replace a guy I know is a thumper.

We can argue all night about it, and my position won't change.
That's because you're an old fart who won't learn new tricks.

What do we ask thumpers to do?

Attack the line of scrimmage, slam the hole, shed blocks and rack up tackles in the box.

There is nothing to suggest Kuechly will be anything other than stellar in this role.

His ability to shed blocks are as good as anybody. He doesn't hit with authority, but he doesn't miss tackles either by going for the big hit. He will require less than a season's worth of development and be as good as anybody in the league by his second season.

He is a sure thing.

He's not necessarily who I'd take at 11, but he's a sure thing.
__________________
Posts: 43,004
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 09:02 PM   #38
milkman milkman is offline
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $1255066
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
That's because you're an old fart who won't learn new tricks.

What do we ask thumpers to do?

Attack the line of scrimmage, slam the hole, shed blocks and rack up tackles in the box.

There is nothing to suggest Kuechly will be anything other than stellar in this role.

His ability to shed blocks are as good as anybody. He doesn't hit with authority, but he doesn't miss tackles either by going for the big hit. He will require less than a season's worth of development and be as good as anybody in the league by his second season.

He is a sure thing.

He's not necessarily who I'd take at 11, but he's a sure thing.
Aaron Curry was a sure thing.
__________________
Posts: 62,738
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 09:19 PM   #39
Bump Bump is offline
DMVP
 
Bump's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Casino cash: $61195
I saw just as many bad plays as good plays on that first video.
Posts: 11,751
Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2012, 11:53 PM   #40
Chiefshrink Chiefshrink is offline
MVP
 
Chiefshrink's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: donkey land
Casino cash: $69082
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefMojo View Post
Kuechly is a read and react type ILB. To add on top of that, he didn't really have crap around him at BC. So in turn he was asked to pretty much free lance around making all the plays. Sometimes that even meant him getting the tackle a fair amount down the field. He wasn't able to attack the line of scrimmage as much as one would expect from someone his size/talent. The reason being was they couldn't have him committing to deep into the line of scrimmage only to lose him down the field for tackles. With the Chiefs he wouldn't have to worry about that. DJ is there to be more of the side line to side line type guy. That allows Kuechly to focus more on his general zone/area... also attack the line of scrimmage more as a thumper but still have the ability to go side line to side line (definite upgrade over Belcher).
Thx !! I feel better now
Posts: 11,727
Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Chiefshrink is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 12:49 AM   #41
Bump Bump is offline
DMVP
 
Bump's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Casino cash: $61195
with the way Romeo can coach guys up, it would probably be a good pick. But I think that Hightower is going to be the best LB out of this draft.
Posts: 11,751
Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Bump has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 01:04 AM   #42
Chiefs=Good Chiefs=Good is offline
Training Camp Hero
 
Chiefs=Good's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Casino cash: $2073466
At this point my preferred 1st round would be:

1. Tannehill




2. Trade down
3. Kuechly
4. BPA- even if that's Floyd, another pass rushers etc..
Posts: 4,409
Chiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliChiefs=Good 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 07:54 AM   #43
Viper400 Viper400 is offline
Rookie
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Casino cash: $2246
Might not matter anyway. Rumor is Rivera loves Kuechly and Carolina will draft him at 9.
Posts: 24
Viper400 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutViper400 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutViper400 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutViper400 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutViper400 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutViper400 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutViper400 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutViper400 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutViper400 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking about
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 11:55 AM   #44
buddha buddha is offline
You may think you know...
 
buddha's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: California
Casino cash: $513198
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
That's because you're an old fart who won't learn new tricks.

What do we ask thumpers to do?

Attack the line of scrimmage, slam the hole, shed blocks and rack up tackles in the box.

There is nothing to suggest Kuechly will be anything other than stellar in this role.

His ability to shed blocks are as good as anybody. He doesn't hit with authority, but he doesn't miss tackles either by going for the big hit. He will require less than a season's worth of development and be as good as anybody in the league by his second season.

He is a sure thing.

He's not necessarily who I'd take at 11, but he's a sure thing.
He's a sure thing? Sure to do what exactly? You must be very easy to impress if you looked at that video and came up with, "sure thing!"

Kuechly is servicable...not dominant. If you're taking a LB at this point in the draft, he had better be dominant. We're the same team that passed on Patrick Willis. Think about it.

Belcher is good enough, and Kuechly won't be an improvement anytime soon, if ever.

I'd go offensive line, CB, or defensive line at that position if the right guys were there. If not, trade down and get more picks.
Posts: 2,025
buddha has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 04:05 PM   #45
kcbubb kcbubb is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $7180
I really don't want to take an ILB or G with the available talent at #11. For once, I agree with Milkman. He's still a prick with his delivery. But he is right on this one. I would rather have Brockers than Barron because I think Lewis is a better solution than Dorsey respectively for their positions. But Barron is still a playmaker.

Ingram would probably be a better ILB than Kuechly for the thumper role. He's very athletic and physical. Obviously Ingram's best spot is OLB, rushing the passer.
Posts: 1,054
kcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Casselkcbubb < Cassel
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.