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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 04-11-2012, 08:21 AM   #2836
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They said they dropped him because of no contact and are afraid for his mental state. Through in the fact he tried to contact the prosecutor without his attorneys and Sean Hannity and it seems they can't control him
Dropping him due to loss of contact and being afraid of his mental state can be two totally different things. What I took from their comments is they can't say they're representing him because they don't seem to be representing him in any capacity.
For all I know they've charged him $10,000 and just said, "Not much going on at this point," every time he talked to them.
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:55 AM   #2837
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Then hire a new lawyer or go pro Bono.
Bono, being convinced that Zimmerman is actually ANTI-Bono, denies all involvement stating that "Mexicans don't like U2".

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Old 04-11-2012, 11:28 AM   #2838
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"This has been a terribly corrosive process," he said. "George Zimmerman, in our opinion, and from information made available to us, is not doing well emotionally, probably suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. We understand from others that he may have lost a lot of weight. ... We're concerned for his emotional and physical safety."

Sonner said he would be willing to represent Zimmerman again in the future, if Zimmerman were to get back in contact with him.

The lawyers admitted they had an unusual business arrangement. Neither had met Zimmerman; they communicated strictly by phone and email.

And Zimmerman had paid them nothing yet, Sonner said.

The arrangement was that unless the special prosecutor filed charges, Sonner would work for free. In the last few weeks, he and Uhrig have traveled to New York at least twice to appear on network news shows.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:56 AM   #2839
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:51 PM   #2840
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Violence and race: a two-way street
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By LZ Granderson , CNN Contributor
2012-04-11T11:40:46Z



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(CNN) -- Within the next day or two we could hear from the special prosecutor's office about her decision on whether to charge George Zimmerman.

Regardless of what she says, chances are a lot of people are not going to be happy with the decision. It's an emotional story with many layers that will likely end with more questions than answers, and more division than unity along racial lines.

I know when I heard about Trayvon Martin's killing, the story immediately touched my heart because I could see my own 15-year-old son in Trayvon.

Similarly, when I heard about the apparent racially motivated killing spree in Tulsa, Oklahoma, last week, it angered me because I could see my brothers and uncles in the slain victims.

But something different happened inside when I saw the video of a white tourist being savagely beaten and stripped by a bunch of black thugs in Baltimore over St. Patrick's Day weekend.

My heart wasn't touched.

I didn't get angry.

Instead, I just became cold.

I didn't want the individuals involved to be arrested.

I wanted them thrown in jail for life. I thought what possible good could adults who would do that to another human being bring to society? Some folks can be rehabilitated, but sometimes it's best to just cut our losses. Why bother wasting taxpayers' dollars on a trial over something that simply cannot and should not be defended? As I watched the helpless man being kicked and heard him being laughed at, I just wanted those hoodlums escorted to solitary confinement and the key thrown away.

As I told you, I became cold.

Sick even.

I posted the video on my Facebook wall and soon found myself in a conversation with a buddy of mine, Brian, who I've known since grad school. In my frustration I e-mailed "I hate people."

Brian immediately hit back: "No you don't. You love people, that is why this upset you so much."

He was right. I don't hate people. I just hated what happened to that guy, just like I hated what happened to the victims in Tulsa. But what I really hate is how the video is only going to confirm what so many whites think about blacks and the arrests are only going to confirm what so many blacks think about whites.

That's where much of the focus will inevitably go instead of to what I think is far more important, and that is what blacks think about ourselves. I don't need to tell you what the response from the black community would be if the victim in the Baltimore video was black and the assailants white. But for some reason many blacks puree crimes of this nature through some warped situational ethics filter, which in the end only makes a mockery of the community more than it empowers it.

For if President Obama had a son, he would look like Trayvon, but he would also look like one of the assailants in that video. That's the uncomfortable truth that the black community must deal with: Racism still hurts us, but not nearly as much as we hurt ourselves.

The same weekend the man in Baltimore was attacked, in Chicago 10 people were killed and 40 were wounded, including a 6-year-old girl who was shot dead while she was playing on the front porch of her home in the Little Village neighborhood.

Neighborhoods such as Little Village, and West Englewood, which has a homicide rate five times that of the rest of the city, are mostly black and Latino. Since 2008, nearly 80% of the more than 500 killings of youth in Chicago have occurred in the 22 black and Latino neighborhoods. Those deaths are not coming by the hands of the KKK but by people who look a lot like the ones in that St. Patrick's Day video.

Or the ones in the video that went viral in February in which a bunch of black thugs attacked a black man as he left a grocery store.

Or the ones in the video that went viral three years ago in which a bunch of black thugs attacked and killed a 16-year-old honor roll student, who was also black.

Sadly, I could go on, but I think the picture is clear.

What isn't as clear is what the black community is going to do about it.

We know how to come together and fight against injustice when the alleged perpetrators are white. However we're not quite sure how to deal with injustice as a community when the perpetrators look like us -- and that is troubling, because when you look at the statistics, it seems the survival of the black community depends more on figuring that part out than dealing with the George Zimmermans of the world.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:52 PM   #2841
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Zimmerman to be charged by Florida special prosecutor, report says

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Old 04-11-2012, 12:58 PM   #2842
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If they say they are going to charge him they need to come out with the charges as well.
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:04 PM   #2843
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If they say they are going to charge him they need to come out with the charges as well.
They will later today I believe. This is one of those announcements prior to the announcements.
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If they say they are going to charge him they need to come out with the charges as well.
Disturbing the peace?
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unlawful discharge of a firearm?
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:40 PM   #2846
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:08 PM   #2847
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If the Black Panthers put a bounty on your client, why would it not be in your best interest to get out of it if you legally have the chance to do so.
Can someone explain why these worthless shitbags have not been arrested?

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Can someone explain why these worthless shitbags have not been arrested?

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free speech?

the nbp's are like the mirror image of skinheads, lots of noise not much action...

so far, they haven't shot anybody...
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the nbp's are like the mirror image of skinheads, lots of noise not much action...

so far, they haven't shot anybody...
I guess. Some people need to be dead. These assholes,skinheads and the like fall into that category~
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:30 PM   #2850
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I guess. Some people need to be dead. These assholes,skinheads and the like fall into that category~
well i wouldn't go so far as to want them dead i do take comfort in the fact that no-one takes them very seriously...

well, they shouldn't take them seriously...

the nbp's are being given a lot more importance in the reporting than they deserve...

nobody's gonna kill zimmerman for the bounty, it's just pandering to the anger of some in the black community...
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