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Old 04-01-2012, 03:23 PM  
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Game of Thrones *Spoiler* Thread

There's been some recent confusion with the old spoiler thread, so I'm kicking off a new one for tonight's premiere. This is going to be the one for folks who've read all the books. So anything anybody might want to talk about is in bounds. Suffice to say, if you haven't read the books, you'll probably want to stay out of here until you do...

I'll bump the old spoiler-free thread shortly in case anybody's interested. For future reference the link to that one is here
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:02 AM   #151
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That would be great if it was the title for the seventh book. I thought the next two were going to be titled "Winds of Winter" for book six (I think that's set in stone) and "A Promise of Spring" for book seven.
GRRM changed it. At one point he said it would be called a Time for Wolves, then he decided to call it a Promise of Spring or a Hope for Spring, or something like that. I'm just hoping that the fact he thought about calling it a Time for Wolves in the first place is an indication of where the plot will ultimately go and who will win out in the end. I have no doubt not all my favorite characters will survive, but hopefully a couple of Starks will and will kick some ass! Arya and Jon are my preference, so Sansa and Rickon will probably be the ones. Not sure how the heck Bran will play into it.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:55 AM   #152
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I just want Arya and Nymeria to meet back up. Those two together would be kickass. Dragons in the air, wolves on the ground.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:57 AM   #153
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GRRM changed it. At one point he said it would be called a Time for Wolves, then he decided to call it a Promise of Spring or a Hope for Spring, or something like that. I'm just hoping that the fact he thought about calling it a Time for Wolves in the first place is an indication of where the plot will ultimately go and who will win out in the end. I have no doubt not all my favorite characters will survive, but hopefully a couple of Starks will and will kick some ass! Arya and Jon are my preference, so Sansa and Rickon will probably be the ones. Not sure how the heck Bran will play into it.
A Time For Wolves is a better title on paper, I think. Of course, I won't know for sure until I've read the book.

I imagine Arya will live. I'm just not sure what role she'll play in the grand scheme. And I'm not sure her family will know that she survived. I'm so curious to see where she goes.

Rickon is such a wildcard. Something big has to happen with him soon. Every other remaining Stark has big things going on. Rickon... I'm losing interest.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:12 AM   #154
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Rickon is going to be interesting. He was already wild as evidenced by his wolf's personality, and then he gets taken to a wild place by Osha the wildling and is basically being raised by her. He is going to be a wildcard in this game! Interactions between him and Davos should be fun.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:34 AM   #155
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I'm with you. The series has made Sansa much more sympathetic to me. Theon as well, though I never had the whole visceral 'he's an asshole' reaction that so many seemed to have halfway through book 1. Going back, I can see how people got that perception of him, though, and I'm glad that the series has tried to more fully show the quandary that he faces: blood vs. "family."

And yes... he's a cur. But imagine if it were a Stark that were fostering with say, the Lannisters, and managed to come back and take Casterly Rock from them, beheading Lannister dogs the whole way. How would we feel? That's a testament to GRRM's writing ability, imo.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:36 AM   #156
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Rickon is going to be interesting. He was already wild as evidenced by his wolf's personality, and then he gets taken to a wild place by Osha the wildling and is basically being raised by her. He is going to be a wildcard in this game! Interactions between him and Davos should be fun.
Man, it's been too long. How do we know Davos is meeting up with Rickon? I only have a vague recollection.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:36 PM   #158
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Man, it's been too long. How do we know Davos is meeting up with Rickon? I only have a vague recollection.
In book 5, Davos goes to Lord Manderly who was a Stark bannerman to try to get his support for Stannis now that Robb is dead (and Bran and Rickon are still thought to have been killed by Theon). Lord Manderly has a bunch of evil Freys in his court and is publicly siding with the Lannisters as a turncoat like the Freys and Boltons. Manderly tells Davos in front of the Freys that he is dead, then puts a fake Davos head on a spike for all to see, thus everyone thinks Davos is dead and Manderly is now on the side of the Lannisters and Freys and Boltons.

But Manderly secretly tells Davos that Wex (a mute servant boy from Winterfell) survived the Winterfell massacre and saw Bran head north and Rickon head wherever he went, so Wex followed Rickon and then reported to Manderly. Manderly tells Dsavos that if Stannis saves Rickon, he can unite the North behind a surviving male Stark to defeat the Lannister/Freys who all loyal Stark loving northmen really hate. He sends Davos off with a ship to go find and bring back Rickon. That's all we know at this point.

The book does not say where Rickon is, but in typical GRRM fashion he included some subtle hints that seem to indicate he and Osha went to the island of Skagos (which is supposedly a very wild place with strange creatures and people which fits in with all the "wild" that surrounds Rickon). Skagos is off the far northeastern coast of Westeros near the Wall. For those interested, here is a link to a cool map of Westeros I saw recently on another site.

http://www.fanboy.com/wp-content/upl...7/Westeros.jpg
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:01 PM   #159
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But Manderly secretly tells Davos that Wex (a mute servant boy from Winterfell) survived the Winterfell massacre and saw Bran head north and Rickon head wherever he went, so Wex followed Rickon and then reported to Manderly. Manderly tells Dsavos that if Stannis saves Rickon, he can unite the North behind a surviving male Stark to defeat the Lannister/Freys who all loyal Stark loving northmen really hate. He sends Davos off with a ship to go find and bring back Rickon. That's all we know at this point.
That's right! Thank you. I remembered about fake, dead Davos. But I was having a really hard time remembering that Manderly send Davos in search of Rickon to unite the North.

There is just so much going on in these books. I'm going to need to re-read them all before 6 comes out.
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Wow, I really wondered how they'd handle that last scene. Pretty much straight from the books.
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Wow, I really wondered how they'd handle that last scene. Pretty much straight from the books.
So good!!

I think people who have felt that this season has been too slow so far, just got their reason to keep watching.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:28 PM   #163
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I haven't watched any of this season yet, but what was it? Melisandre giving birth?
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:56 PM   #164
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I haven't watched any of this season yet, but what was it? Melisandre giving birth?
Yep. And it was STRAIGHT out of the book.

And what the hell? Take a half day off from work and get caught up, for cryin out loud.
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Old 04-23-2012, 12:03 AM   #165
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And they really fast forwarded Dany's storyline, but I guess they really didn't have any choice. She muddled through that desert forever before they found the dead city, much less Quarth.
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