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Old 04-01-2012, 03:23 PM  
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Game of Thrones *Spoiler* Thread

There's been some recent confusion with the old spoiler thread, so I'm kicking off a new one for tonight's premiere. This is going to be the one for folks who've read all the books. So anything anybody might want to talk about is in bounds. Suffice to say, if you haven't read the books, you'll probably want to stay out of here until you do...

I'll bump the old spoiler-free thread shortly in case anybody's interested. For future reference the link to that one is here
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:27 AM   #166
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Somebody spoiler me wtf that was that crawled out of her birth canal.
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Old 04-23-2012, 04:16 AM   #167
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Somebody spoiler me wtf that was that crawled out of her birth canal.
It's a "shadow".
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:41 AM   #168
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If you want spoilers anyhow. It is a shadow, which will serve in the capacity of making good on what Stannis said.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:56 AM   #169
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I never really got the whole shadow birth thing, but non-readers have to be saying WTF? I know my wife was. Hell, even Davos was! Only really one other big magical presence in this book besides the shadow assasin and the warging of the wolves. Speaking of wolves, I loved the beginning scene when Grey Wind leads the attack, was that Robb warging Grey Wind?
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:14 AM   #170
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I wonder if he wargs like the others. Sansa never showed any signs of it before Lady was killed. Without a POV from him it is hard to say if he warg'd at all.

And yeah, that was very cool. And I like how they are introducing his love interest so far, even if I don't like where it will end up in the slightest.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:22 AM   #171
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I think Sansa gives a hint of warging ability with the dog at Littlefinger's house later on. Arya certainly can warg which she uses to her advantage when she is blinded, plus she has the wolf dreams like Bran. Bran and Jon can warg also. So I am pretty sure Robb and Rickon probably can as well, even if it is never explicitly stated in the books.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:24 AM   #172
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So here's what I get from The Game of Thrones battlefield so far:
The Targaryens/Dothraki have Dragons...
The Starks have Wolves...
The red headed chick has the anti-christ...
There is a zombie-like army north of the wall...
and King Joffrey has an imp....
I've got to give it to the Dothraki with the red head coming in a close second.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:29 AM   #173
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Wow, I really wondered how they'd handle that last scene. Pretty much straight from the books.
Except I don't think we see the birthing until the second shadow is "born" to kill the castellan at Storm's End (not sure on location). The shadow that murders Renly just shows up out of nowhere and Davos escorts Melisandre to take the stronghold later on. But I did read the books a while ago so maybe I screwed the order up.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:03 AM   #174
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And what the hell? Take a half day off from work and get caught up, for cryin out loud.
Intentional. Trying something new. Going to watch the season 1 blu-ray and then season 2 in chunks once sweeps is over.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:28 AM   #175
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Except I don't think we see the birthing until the second shadow is "born" to kill the castellan at Storm's End (not sure on location). The shadow that murders Renly just shows up out of nowhere and Davos escorts Melisandre to take the stronghold later on. But I did read the books a while ago so maybe I screwed the order up.
In the books the birthing of the shadow baby is to kill Penrose who is holding Storm's End after Renly is killed by the first shadow (we don't see that one being born in the books). The show has eliminated the Penrose aspect of the story as it is unecessarily complicated to explain on screen, so I think this shadow baby on the show will just be to kill Renly. One shadow killing is enough for the show I guess.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:03 AM   #176
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They got Rat nasty this week! That one made my wife pretty squeamish. I was worried for Sansa too! I'm not too squeamish, but I did not want to see her get stripped and tortured. Thanks God Tyrion intervened. Too bad for the whores though. Joffery is an evil twat.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:07 AM   #177
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I thought for a second that he was going to make her sodomize the other chick with that scepter, I was actually a little relieved when she hit her with it instead.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:02 AM   #178
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I thought for a second that he was going to make her sodomize the other chick with that scepter, I was actually a little relieved when she hit her with it instead.
No shit. And she kept holding it with the horned end forward.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:38 AM   #179
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I wonder if he wargs like the others. Sansa never showed any signs of it before Lady was killed. Without a POV from him it is hard to say if he warg'd at all.

And yeah, that was very cool. And I like how they are introducing his love interest so far, even if I don't like where it will end up in the slightest.

Martin never really says one way or the other about Robb. However, there have been accounts in the books from other characters talking about how the two (Robb and Grey Wind) seemed to be like the same creature almost, especially in battle. There is no way of knowing how developed the ability was, or if Robb ever realized what was taking place. I suspect not, or he probably never would have allowed himself to be separated (physically) from the wolf.

Just my take on it.
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I never really got the whole shadow birth thing, but non-readers have to be saying WTF? I know my wife was. Hell, even Davos was! Only really one other big magical presence in this book besides the shadow assasin and the warging of the wolves. Speaking of wolves, I loved the beginning scene when Grey Wind leads the attack, was that Robb warging Grey Wind?
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