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Old 05-02-2012, 12:14 AM  
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:32 AM   #2
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So Ron Paul will be a significant force at the Convention? It's too early to declare Romney the nominee?
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:34 AM   #3
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So Ron Paul will be a significant force at the Convention? It's too early to declare Romney the nominee?
Where have you been? Ron Paul has been significant all along.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:59 AM   #4
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All it means is that Ron Paul supporters will be able to vote for him on the first ballot at the convention. Romney will easily get the delegates needed to secure the nomination on the first ballot.

Its nothing more than a big FU to the Republican establishment and only helps Obama get elected. Can't wait...
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:23 AM   #5
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Hopefully he will ride that momentum to a 3rd-party run and we can see Romney get Nader'd.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:36 AM   #6
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All it means is that Ron Paul supporters will be able to vote for him on the first ballot at the convention. Romney will easily get the delegates needed to secure the nomination on the first ballot.

Its nothing more than a big FU to the Republican establishment and only helps Obama get elected. Can't wait...
"All it means..."

The Republican party is going to be reckoning with itself for a decade to determine what it all means. The party is in civil war across the country. You're an insider - you know it better than I do. I'm sure you've participated in sessions to try to figure out how to shut the Paul factor down. You're from Iowa, right? Having any luck?
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:11 AM   #7
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Having all but locked up the Republican nomination for president, Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, assembled a slate of delegates to support him at the Republican nominating convention in Tampa.

But when Massachusetts Republicans went to their caucuses on Saturday, many didn’t vote for Mitt Romney’s picks.

Instead, they went for Ron Paul.

Less than half of Romney’s 27 chosen delegates won, and the losers included some notable Massachusetts Republicans - including Kerry Healey, the former lieutenant governor, and the House minority leader, Bradley H. Jones Jr., according to two Republican State Committee members who did not want to be named. Even some prominent alternate delegates lost - including 2010 gubernatorial candidate Charles D. Baker and Sheriff Frank G. Cousins Jr., the Republicans said.

The complexion of the delegation may not matter much to Romney’s nomination: All delegates and alternates are committed to vote for him.

But the delegates will get to choose the chairman, vote on a platform, and support whomever they choose for vice president. And the team that Romney brings to the convention may not all be rooting for the home-state nominee.

http://articles.boston.com/2012-04-3...setts-governor
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:35 AM   #8
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But the delegates will get to choose the chairman, vote on a platform, and support whomever they choose for vice president. And the team that Romney brings to the convention may not all be rooting for the home-state nominee.

http://articles.boston.com/2012-04-3...setts-governor
These were probably really great privileges when campaigns were less person-centric, but now, I think, the Presidential nominee's voice is much more significant.
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:30 AM   #9
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Having all but locked up the Republican nomination for president, Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, assembled a slate of delegates to support him at the Republican nominating convention in Tampa.

But when Massachusetts Republicans went to their caucuses on Saturday, many didn’t vote for Mitt Romney’s picks.

Instead, they went for Ron Paul.

Less than half of Romney’s 27 chosen delegates won, and the losers included some notable Massachusetts Republicans - including Kerry Healey, the former lieutenant governor, and the House minority leader, Bradley H. Jones Jr., according to two Republican State Committee members who did not want to be named. Even some prominent alternate delegates lost - including 2010 gubernatorial candidate Charles D. Baker and Sheriff Frank G. Cousins Jr., the Republicans said.

The complexion of the delegation may not matter much to Romney’s nomination: All delegates and alternates are committed to vote for him.

But the delegates will get to choose the chairman, vote on a platform, and support whomever they choose for vice president. And the team that Romney brings to the convention may not all be rooting for the home-state nominee.

http://articles.boston.com/2012-04-3...setts-governor
Do you REALLY think the Ron Paul supporters are going to pick Romney's running mate?

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Old 05-02-2012, 08:35 AM   #10
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Comical. It's the political equivalent of the dork who was always whining about being picked last for kick ball at recess.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:06 AM   #11
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Do you REALLY think the Ron Paul supporters are going to pick Romney's running mate?

I have no idea what is going to happen. I just know that there is a civil war going on in the Republican party. What that means politically is unknown. Could be nothing, but I sincerely doubt that given how many Paul supporters will be in Tampa this year.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:12 AM   #12
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"Civil War in the GOP"... fully 3 or 4% of the party is really angry that their guy has no widespread appeal...
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:13 AM   #13
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Comical. It's the political equivalent of the dork who was always whining about being picked last for kick ball at recess.
And so then the dork takes over the team?

But perhaps more important and far-reaching in its implications for the future of national politics in the US, is not Ron Paul’s delegate count, but the fact that his supporters are successfully taking over the Republican Party district by district, county by county, state by state. That the fiercely independent Republican congressman from Texas might still have a tiny chance at winning his party’s nomination, while interesting, is less important than what he will most certainly have succeeded at doing: Ron Paul has built a political machine.

Judging by recent events in state and local GOP conventions across the country, it may not be at all presumptuous for Ron Paul’s supporters to call their burgeoning movement a revolution.

In Iowa, it is no exaggeration to say that Ron Paul’s people have taken over the GOP. After a stunning coup on April 21st, the new Iowa GOP state central committee now has six members who have publicly expressed support for Ron Paul’s candidacy– and that includes the new state chair of the Iowa Republican Party, A. J. Spiker, the former vice chairman for Ron Paul’s Iowa campaign! Think about that. This is major news. It signals a sea change in the Republican Party. We are now living in a world where the head of the Republican Party of Iowa is a Ron Paul supporter.

And it’s not just Iowa, though Iowa is especially significant because of its prominent role in the national primary process. Ron Paul’s supporters are taking over the Republican Party everywhere. This weekend during the April 28th district conventions, Ron Paul supporters also took over the GOP in Louisiana, with not a bare majority, but a whopping 74% of the delegates to Louisiana’s state convention in June. You can bet they’ll show up and you can bet they’ll elect their own to positions of leadership in the state GOP.

It’s the same story in Alaska, where the Ron Paul movement took over the Republican Party’s state convention on Saturday, and elected two Ron Paul supporters to the positions of state chair and co-chair, Russ Millete and Debbie Holland-Brown, respectively. Even in Mitt Romney’s own home state of Massachusetts, Ron Paul’s movement swept the state’s district conventions Saturday, and stacked the slate of delegates bound to vote for Romney on the first ballot in Tampa with activists who will vote for Ron Paul on the second ballot if there’s a brokered convention.

Looking back further to mid-April, Paul’s supporters also dominated conventions in Minnesota and made a strong showing in Colorado. Looking ahead, Paul’s supporters are poised to continue repeating their successful takeover strategy at the Nevada State GOP’s convention this weekend, and careful observers should look out for more possible surprises in the upcoming Texas and California processes, especially with the likelihood of Newt Gingrich’s withdrawal from the race, leaving Ron Paul as the only alternative to an electorate that is hardly enamored with Mitt Romney.

Again, the bigger story here is not Ron Paul’s chances at winning his party’s nomination, but his supporters’ marked success at winning control over the party apparatus itself.

http://ivn.us/2012/05/01/forget-the-...ublican-party/

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Old 05-02-2012, 10:13 AM   #14
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:14 AM   #15
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I have no idea what is going to happen. I just know that there is a civil war going on in the Republican party. What that means politically is unknown. Could be nothing, but I sincerely doubt that given how many Paul supporters will be in Tampa this year.
Just because you want something to be true, doesn't mean that it is. There isn't a civil war going on in the GOP. There's a fringe element (Paul followers) who like to pretend that they have more power and influence than they do. They'll probably make some noise during the convention and that's it. After all, that's all they've ever really done.
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