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Old 05-03-2012, 02:53 PM  
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Silly argument about paintings

I am at work today and I was talking to my co-worker about "The Scream", which sold at an auction for nearly 120 million dollars. Anyway, I referred to it as a painting, and he quickly corrected me "IT'S NOT A PAINTING, IT'S A PASTEL!". Which is correct, it is a pastel. But isn't a pastel still a painting? I looked up "painting" and it says Painting is the practice of applying paint, pigment, color or other medium to a surface (support base).

I also found a billion videos of artists using pastel crayons (or whatever they're called) and referring to their work as "paintings" like this one for example


So no, it isn't a painting in the literal sense that it was painted with paint and a brush, but is it still wrong to refer to it as a painting?
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:16 PM   #16
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Does finger painting involve a brush?
Well finger painting involves 'paint', so that one seemed kinda self-explanatory.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:17 PM   #17
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So why do so many artists who use pastel sticks refer to their work as paintings? Why?
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:17 PM   #18
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I presented all my evidence to him and it still wasn't good enough. So he then told me I'm a moron that knows nothing about anything except Doritos and video games. I guess because he's 52 and I'm 28? I don't know. He thinks because he went to art school 30 years ago he's the expert on art.
Your co-worker sounds like a arrogant douche with a rage complex. He wouldn't happen to go by the nickname Milkman, would he?
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:20 PM   #19
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So why do so many artists who use pastel sticks refer to their work as paintings? Why?
I think they use it interchangiably with a portrait on how it started and everyone went with it. Still think there is a size issue also on when you can call it a painting or portrait.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:20 PM   #20
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:20 PM   #21
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:21 PM   #22
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Well finger painting involves 'paint', so that one seemed kinda self-explanatory.
So it has to involve a brush or paint? I couldn't paint my girlfriend's face with cum just by spraying it?
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:27 PM   #23
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So it has to involve a brush or paint? I couldn't paint my girlfriend's face with cum just by spraying it?
After the fact, would you refer to her face as a "painting?"
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:35 PM   #24
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After the fact, would you refer to her face as a "painting?"
A face painting perhaps...yes.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:39 PM   #25
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:45 PM   #26
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Pastels are technically paintings... your coworker is an ignorant blowhard and needs to go back to art school.

Is a watercolor a painting? Is a fresco a painting? The answer is YES.
Pastels are exactly the same as the above.. just that the pigment is in a different medium.

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Old 05-03-2012, 04:03 PM   #28
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So that's what The Scream was all about...
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:49 PM   #29
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He's now saying if it isn't liquid paint, it isn't a painting.
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