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Old 05-03-2012, 05:37 PM   #136
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Well you're blind. Past behavior is a good indication of future behavior and I've read the Clean Break strategy and PNAC documents.
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #137
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Your RINO arguments are falling on deaf ears. You ronpauls should get a room with Code Pink.
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:42 PM   #138
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Well you're blind. Past behavior is a good indication of future behavior and I've read the Clean Break strategy and PNAC documents.
Please feel free to list any Republican leaders who are calling for a strike on Iran now.
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:43 PM   #139
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Please feel free to list any Republican leaders who are calling for a strike on Iran now.
You should take off the "now" and of course they won't admit it with those words but we know what they're really about.
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:46 PM   #140
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You should take off the "now" and of course they won't admit it with those words but we know what they're really about.
Sure, there many people who believe that military force should be used if diplomacy fails, including Obama.

But, since we actually live in the now, it's a rather important distinction. You just need to accept the reality that force against Iran isn't a left or right issue. I realize you won't, however, because it doesn't fit your thinking.
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:56 PM   #141
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You sure are obsessed by Paul posters Donger. You're like a fly to flypaper.

I am not going to do rinse and repeat on this. Polls don't support you. Polls show Americans even want out of Afghanistan and there are Rs upset by this idea. Just listen to Rubio.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:06 PM   #142
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You sure are obsessed by Paul posters Donger. You're like a fly to flypaper.

I am not going to do rinse and repeat on this. Polls don't support you. Polls show Americans even want out of Afghanistan and there are Rs upset by this idea. Just listen to Rubio.
Meh. I correct my dog when he barks, too. Same thing, really.

But, if polls are important to you, you may want to check out the support using military force against Iran to prevent them becoming nuclear-armed.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:52 PM   #143
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Old 05-03-2012, 07:04 PM   #144
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Yes, the facts. According to the last poll I saw, 56% of Americans would support military force against Iran to prevent them from becoming nuclear-armed.

I thought polls were important to you.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:50 PM   #146
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Ron Paul can beat Obama, but they mainstream Republicans don't know that because Fox News has told them the opposite.
Geez...and I thought the birthers were delusional.

So, the thing is that Paul is awesome but Rs are just too stupid to know because they are watching Fox? Well, I kind of agree with part of that, but at some point you Paulies need to sack up and just realize its not them, its you.

He's been on the national scene as a national candidate for 5 years. If he can't get substantial traction to make a real run, its time to stop blaming everyone else. Even that lightweight nutjob Santorum made a run to the top. If Paul can't compete with him, its time to give it up.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:14 PM   #147
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Geez...and I thought the birthers were delusional.

So, the thing is that Paul is awesome but Rs are just too stupid to know because they are watching Fox? Well, I kind of agree with part of that, but at some point you Paulies need to sack up and just realize its not them, its you.

He's been on the national scene as a national candidate for 5 years. If he can't get substantial traction to make a real run, its time to stop blaming everyone else. Even that lightweight nutjob Santorum made a run to the top. If Paul can't compete with him, its time to give it up.
Should you be more concerned if your communist is going to win?
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:18 PM   #148
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The RNC isn’t just nervous about Nevada. In the past few weeks, as Romney cemented his hold on the nomination and the media turned its attention to the general election, Paul supporters have wreaked havoc at numerous district caucuses and state conventions, producing some startling results. For instance, 20 of Iowa’s 28 national convention delegates will likely be Paul supporters – even though the Texan finished third in the state’s January caucuses with 21 percent of the vote. And 20 of the 24 delegates selected in district caucuses in Minnesota recently are Paul backers, even though he was trounced by Rick Santorum in the state’s February caucuses. Similar stories have emerged from Louisiana, Colorado and Massachusetts, with the list likely to grow.

This is possible because of the GOP’s multi-tier delegate selection process. In many caucus states, the “official” results that most people saw this winter were from nonbinding straw polls conducted in conjunction with precinct-level caucuses. But when it comes to choosing national convention delegates, the real action is at district caucuses and state conventions. In the past, this distinction hasn’t mattered much, but for the Paul forces – who lack the numbers to win statewide primaries but have the devotion to pack any room, anywhere, at any time – it has offered an inviting loophole. When turnout is small and no one is looking, the Paul folks can win, and that’s what’s been happening in a number of states.

To Paul die-hards, this will all culminate in a surprise for the ages in Tampa, with the political world suddenly realizing that Romney actually doesn’t have the 1,144 delegates needed to win the nomination, thereby allowing Paul to extract major concessions or even steal the nomination for himself.


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Old 05-03-2012, 11:26 PM   #149
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Eric Erickson @ Red State:

A prominent friend told me some weeks ago that he noticed an odd thing. In his state, several people who have been successful in getting themselves known as very probably Mitt Romney delegates for the Republican National Convention are also his supporters. And they are not just my friends’ supporters, they are also long time staunch Ron Paul supporters.

Why then would they, long time staunch Ron Paul supporters, align this year with Mitt Romney? He made calls and talked to friends in other states. All of them saw the same thing happening — long time Dr. Paul supporters working to become delegates to the convention pledging to support Mitt Romney and others.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/0...nuary-19-2012/
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The RNC isn’t just nervous about Nevada. In the past few weeks, as Romney cemented his hold on the nomination and the media turned its attention to the general election, Paul supporters have wreaked havoc at numerous district caucuses and state conventions, producing some startling results. For instance, 20 of Iowa’s 28 national convention delegates will likely be Paul supporters – even though the Texan finished third in the state’s January caucuses with 21 percent of the vote. And 20 of the 24 delegates selected in district caucuses in Minnesota recently are Paul backers, even though he was trounced by Rick Santorum in the state’s February caucuses. Similar stories have emerged from Louisiana, Colorado and Massachusetts, with the list likely to grow.

This is possible because of the GOP’s multi-tier delegate selection process. In many caucus states, the “official” results that most people saw this winter were from nonbinding straw polls conducted in conjunction with precinct-level caucuses. But when it comes to choosing national convention delegates, the real action is at district caucuses and state conventions. In the past, this distinction hasn’t mattered much, but for the Paul forces – who lack the numbers to win statewide primaries but have the devotion to pack any room, anywhere, at any time – it has offered an inviting loophole. When turnout is small and no one is looking, the Paul folks can win, and that’s what’s been happening in a number of states.

To Paul die-hards, this will all culminate in a surprise for the ages in Tampa, with the political world suddenly realizing that Romney actually doesn’t have the 1,144 delegates needed to win the nomination, thereby allowing Paul to extract major concessions or even steal the nomination for himself.


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"From an official standpoint, there’s still probably not much that Paul could do at the convention even with a significant chunk of delegates. With plurality support from five state delegations, he could have his name placed in nomination. That would give Paul and his supporters a little more time at the podium, presumably in a non-primetime hour, but the roll call of states would still be a formality, with Paul falling short. He could also push for (and maybe even force floor votes on) platform planks covering his pet issues, but again, his side would simply be outvoted. And anyway, it’s likely that Romney is already planning to accommodate Paul with speaking time and some platform concessions anyway, for the sake of unity."
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