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Old 01-09-2011, 01:42 PM  
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Cassel did, does, and will always suck

I had backed off on my Cassel hate in the second half of the season because he actually started to play with a modicum of competence. But I never stopped being wary of him, because he was playing well against shitty, shitty ****ing teams.

But today is proof positive that Cassel is NOT the answer. He will NOT be a franchise quarterback. He simply doesn't have the ability or the intelligence that is required. He never really progressed this season; he just managed to not shit himself against the NFC West.

Can we all just agree that he's not the answer? Please?
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:40 PM   #1681
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The NFL should put an asterisk next to the Giants SB win since they only won 9 games that season.
That's a horrible comparison that makes zero sense.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:40 PM   #1682
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:40 PM   #1683
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Did the Packers drop any passes in thier meeting? We can negate it that way too!!
Kyle Orton isn't walking through that door.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:41 PM   #1684
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Well I guess if the Chiefs turn out a top 3 defense this year we could have a chance with that formula. I see our D as good, but not that good.
Your point, that a run first team can not win in today's NFL, is false.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:43 PM   #1685
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That's a horrible comparison that makes zero sense.
No its not.

I'm discrediting their final product due to their substandard performance prior to the post season.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:44 PM   #1686
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Your point, that a run first team can not win in today's NFL, is false.
OK I coincide, maybe regular season but I don't see a team "running" through the post season in the near future.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:46 PM   #1687
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No its not.

I'm discrediting their final product due to their substandard performance prior to the post season.
It's a horrible comparison.

You don't know what the final product of 2012 is going to be.

All we know right now is that yes, the 2011 team won 7 games, largely due in part to the fact that they faced 5 horrible quarterbacks.

Since we aren't facing 5 horrible quarterbacks this season, trying to extrapolate 2012 based on 2011 is faulty reasoning.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:47 PM   #1688
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:54 PM   #1689
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That would certainly induce a organizational wide enema.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:57 PM   #1690
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7-9 minus 5 wins against QB's that don't count plus super, magical tough schedule equals 2-14. CP math learn it!!!
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:00 PM   #1691
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It's a horrible comparison.

You don't know what the final product of 2012 is going to be.

All we know right now is that yes, the 2011 team won 7 games, largely due in part to the fact that they faced 5 horrible quarterbacks.

Since we aren't facing 5 horrible quarterbacks this season, trying to extrapolate 2012 based on 2011 is faulty reasoning.
We still won 7 games with shitty QBs and RBs. You keep leaving this fact out.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:01 PM   #1692
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7-9 minus 5 wins against QB's that don't count plus super, magical tough schedule equals 2-14. CP math learn it!!!
Last year's team was clearly not a legit 7-win team.

It's kind of like saying the 1995 Chiefs were a legit 13-win team. They were not nearly as good as their record implied.

I'd say last year's team was more akin to what most 4-12 teams are.

So, add back the players we lost last year, and we're probably a 7-9/8-8 team this year.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:02 PM   #1693
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:02 PM   #1694
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We still won 7 games with shitty QBs and RBs. You keep leaving this fact out.
And we still have a shitty QB.

Maybe we can win 8 games this year.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:05 PM   #1695
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Last year's team was clearly not a legit 7-win team.

It's kind of like saying the 1995 Chiefs were a legit 13-win team. They were not nearly as good as their record implied.

I'd say last year's team was more akin to what most 4-12 teams are.

So, add back the players we lost last year, and we're probably a 7-9/8-8 team this year.
Every team is a legit whatever their record is.
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