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Old 04-28-2012, 12:58 PM  
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****OFFICIAL 2012 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD****

Great sports weekend with the draft and now the NBA Playoffs starting today

First Round Matchups Today:

76ers vs Bulls
Knicks vs Heat
Magic vs Pacers
Mavs vs Thunder

Sunday:

Jazz vs Spurs
Celtics vs Hawks
Clippers vs Grizzlies
Nuggets vs Lakers

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Old 06-21-2012, 11:47 PM   #5176
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LeBron is better than Kobe even at a younger age.
You've lost it. Lebron is better than Kobe in the current day. Lebron does not have the better career.
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:48 PM   #5177
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An argument can be made for guys like Malone, Duncan, and Barkley for sure. Kobe is a step behind those guys, though. He's a bit overrated due to the number of championships.
Kobe behind any of those guys is laughable.
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:51 PM   #5178
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Malone, Stockton, and Barkley are all top 10 in career win shares, fwiw. Kobe 18th..LeBron is already 28th.
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:51 PM   #5179
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Kobe behind any of those guys is laughable.
I see your basketball takes are just as stupid as your football ones.
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:54 PM   #5180
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I see your basketball takes are just as stupid as your football ones.
Find me someone with any basketball credentials that thinks Kobe isn't a top 10 player of all time and get back to me with your "genious."
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:54 PM   #5181
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Kobe behind any of those guys is laughable.
Not really. He was fortunate to have Shaq and later Gasol help win those championships. The Lakers weren't good at all in that between period when he was by himself, there might be a reason for that.
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:55 PM   #5182
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Doubt that. There are going to be a handful of teams playing for that top spot. It's not going to be just 2 teams. This is the age where elite players want to play on the same team to create superpowers.
I don't know. I just think my Bulls are about to get some payback lol. Now I'm gonna know how it felt to be those other teams in the 90's when we were owning fools. The Heat and Thunder have it, they just gotta stay healthy and hungry like we did.
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:56 PM   #5183
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Not really. He was fortunate to have Shaq and later Gasol help win those championships. The Lakers weren't good at all in that between period when he was by himself, there might be a reason for that.
Name me one person that won anything in the NBA by themselves.

How'd your boy Barkley do? ....Crickets....
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:00 AM   #5184
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Shaq was a way more dominant player than Duncan.
Duncan is the best power forward in history. It's certainly arguable who was better, but Duncan is/was a much better defensive player. That's what puts him over the top IMO.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:01 AM   #5185
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LeBron is 2nd in career PER behind MJ. Barkley 11th, Kobe 18th. Wade is notably 6th, but that will fall as his game continues to decline.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:02 AM   #5186
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Name me one person that won anything in the NBA by themselves.

How'd your boy Barkley do? ....Crickets....
Rick Barry is the only one that might come close to that.
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Not really. He was fortunate to have Shaq and later Gasol help win those championships. The Lakers weren't good at all in that between period when he was by himself, there might be a reason for that.
I can't stand Kobe, but the reason the Lakers weren't particularly good for a stretch is because he was playing with guys like Smush Parker starting at point guard. There's a reason he's been considered by his peers as an (the?) alpha dog in the league for a while.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:04 AM   #5188
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Name me one person that won anything in the NBA by themselves.

How'd your boy Barkley do? ....Crickets....
LeBron won 65 games and carried a team by himself to the NBA finals. But again, that kind of illustrates just what kind of player he is...a historically good one.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:04 AM   #5189
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LeBron won 65 games and carried a team by himself to the NBA finals. But again, that kind of illustrates just what kind of player he is...a historically good one.
What did Lebron win that year? Oh yea.. a broom in the Finals.
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