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Old 06-25-2012, 11:28 PM  
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A president should remain limited to two terms but...

... they should not be allowed to serve them consecutively.

Obama's administration removing federal immigration support from the state of Arizona only re-enforces my belief that a sitting president should not be allowed to run for the office during the following election. I honestly and truly believe that his actions are little more than for the purpose of securing the hispanic vote in this coming election.

I don't like Romney any more than I like Obama but if I have to choose between a giant douche who supports state's rights to secure their borders, and a turd sandwich more interested in politicking than defending the welfare of the citizens who elected him.... then giant douche it is.

Not allowing a sitting president to use his office as a campaigning tool would squash a bunch of this bullshit.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:51 PM   #31
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Because in his 2nd term, he will see to it that there are no more elections, or so the theory goes. Of course, with that kind of power, you would think he would just cancel the upcoming elections and not risk losing the election.
Good point, since he's now emperor he should cancel the election, have the entire GOP jailed for disloyalty to the throne, and why worry about the supreme court tomorrow? He can over-rule them now that he has all these new powers
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:52 PM   #32
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Because in his 2nd term, he will see to it that there are no more elections, or so the theory goes. Of course, with that kind of power, you would think he would just cancel the upcoming elections and not risk losing the election.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:59 PM   #33
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Of course, I don't actually believe it. That you do indicates that you should be committed to a mental institution. Or that you should run for a leadership position with the RNC.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:21 PM   #34
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... they should not be allowed to serve them consecutively.

Obama's administration removing federal immigration support from the state of Arizona only re-enforces my belief that a sitting president should not be allowed to run for the office during the following election. I honestly and truly believe that his actions are little more than for the purpose of securing the hispanic vote in this coming election.

I don't like Romney any more than I like Obama but if I have to choose between a giant douche who supports state's rights to secure their borders, and a turd sandwich more interested in politicking than defending the welfare of the citizens who elected him.... then giant douche it is.

Not allowing a sitting president to use his office as a campaigning tool would squash a bunch of this bullshit.
There's pretty much no pro-immigrant policies a Democrat can embrace without being called a shill for the Hispanic vote.

For the record, the Arizona law was mostly struck down by a super conservative Supreme Court.

How far from the pack have you strayed, exactly...
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:37 PM   #35
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:06 PM   #36
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How on earth would him being re-elected be the last free election we will have? That's out there even by RWNJ standards
Try looking around the internet, there are more than conservatives that feel that way. I won't harp on the point, but you might wait and see what happens in the near future.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:22 PM   #37
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Try looking around the internet, there are more than conservatives that feel that way. I won't harp on the point, but you might wait and see what happens in the near future.
Well, if it's somewhere on the internet, you just know it's a legit concern.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:26 PM   #38
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Try looking around the internet, there are more than conservatives that feel that way. I won't harp on the point, but you might wait and see what happens in the near future.
What exactly do you mean by "more than conservatives?" There's a lot of left-of-center people who think this? Where?

As much as I like to lump all of you right-of-center folks together for convenience--and entertainment--most conservatives aren't in the "Obama will cancel elections" or "last free elections" crowd. You are part of a select sub-group of ultra, ultra-batshit crazy kooks that really defy proper classification.

I'm pretty sure your type should be locked up somewhere for society's and your own good, as chances are that the voices in your head will eventually tell you to grab some tin foil headgear, a rifle, and head to a clock tower.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:46 PM   #39
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Well, if it's somewhere on the internet, you just know it's a legit concern.
I didn't say it was a legit concern, there are more people talking about it around the country than you might think. BUT, so you don't think I don't feel strongly about it, Obama wants to be a world leader, not just the U.S. leader. There is nothing he won't do to achieve his goal. It's all aobut him, and has zero to do with America or the people of America.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:48 PM   #40
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What exactly do you mean by "more than conservatives?" There's a lot of left-of-center people who think this? Where?

As much as I like to lump all of you right-of-center folks together for convenience--and entertainment--most conservatives aren't in the "Obama will cancel elections" or "last free elections" crowd. You are part of a select sub-group of ultra, ultra-batshit crazy kooks that really defy proper classification.

I'm pretty sure your type should be locked up somewhere for society's and your own good, as chances are that the voices in your head will eventually tell you to grab some tin foil headgear, a rifle, and head to a clock tower.
I think you are a stupid ****, no I know you are a stupid ****. You are a sheep that follows your little black shepard. Wake up and see what you have as a president.

Regardless of all of your childish name calling and classifying the U.S. stands more of a chance now of losing the country than ever before in history. EVEN in 2008 when you said that Bush would cancel the elections. Live life as you wish, you are going to get a big shock sometime in your life.
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I didn't say it was a legit concern, there are more people talking about it around the country than you might think. BUT, so you don't think I don't feel strongly about it, Obama wants to be a world leader, not just the U.S. leader. There is nothing he won't do to achieve his goal. It's all aobut him, and has zero to do with America or the people of America.
You should some more guns. ASAP
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:52 PM   #42
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Regardless of all of your childish name calling and classifying the U.S. stands more of a chance now of losing the country than ever before in history.
So true. Like, even more of a chance than the Civil War. It's really scary out there.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:00 PM   #43
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I think you are a stupid ****, no I know you are a stupid ****. You are a sheep that follows your little black shepard. Wake up and see what you have as a president.

Regardless of all of your childish name calling and classifying the U.S. stands more of a chance now of losing the country than ever before in history. EVEN in 2008 when you said that Bush would cancel the elections. Live life as you wish, you are going to get a big shock sometime in your life.
Wow. Get help.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:05 PM   #44
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You know, if there's anything Obama has done to appeal to the Hispanic vote, it's his recent immigration order saying that he won't send good illegal students back to El Salvador or wherever. The change in immigration policy has been planned for a while, and it was ICE's response to the repeal of the Arizona immigration laws. It's also been spun like a washing machine by the right-wing press (and the right-wing not-really-the-press, like all of the opinion blogs people have been linked to here).

But even if Obama couldn't run again until 2016, his actions now would still be held for or against Hilary, or whoever, and would work for or against him in four years. The idea sounds better in concept than it would in practice, unfortunately.

But, changes start with ideas, most of which don't pan out, so keep it up.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:07 PM   #45
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You know, if there's anything Obama has done to appeal to the Hispanic vote, it's his recent immigration order saying that he won't send good illegal students back to El Salvador or wherever. The change in immigration policy has been planned for a while, and it was ICE's response to the repeal of the Arizona immigration laws. It's also been spun like a washing machine by the right-wing press (and the right-wing not-really-the-press, like all of the opinion blogs people have been linked to here).

But even if Obama couldn't run again until 2016, his actions now would still be held for or against Hilary, or whoever, and would work for or against him in four years. The idea sounds better in concept than it would in practice, unfortunately.

But, changes start with ideas, most of which don't pan out, so keep it up.
Pretty good post.

Public policy is too often crafted for short-term gain, not long-term benefit.

Ensuring presidents can only serve four years at a time only guarantees to make that problem worse.
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