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Old 07-08-2012, 06:02 PM  
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Wright later went on to suggest that America’s elite universities infect African Americans with “white racist DNA.”

“Take a baby born an African, as an African in the oven,” he said, using Malcolm X’s saying “just because a cat has kittens in the oven, that doesn’t make them biscuits” as a reference point for his riff.

“Take that baby him or her away from the African mother, away from the African community, away from the African experience. . . and put them Africans at the breasts of Yale, Harvard, University of Chicago, those trinity schools, UCLA or U.C. Berkley. Turn them into biscuits then they’ll get that alien DNA all up inside their brain and they will turn on their own people in defense of the ones who are keeping their own people under oppression.”

“There is white racist DNA running through the synapses of their under-brain tissue,” he continued.

“They will kill their own kind, defend the enemies of their kind or anyone who is perceived to be the enemy of the milky white way of life.”
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:44 PM   #91
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:48 PM   #92
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Pat, you're full of it. No difference between praying for someone vs ignoring the person's practiced religion and performing rites to make that person a member of a different religion?.
it's apparent you have little understanding of the meaning of baptism or how a person becomes a "member" of a religion.

Baptism in Chrisitan faiths does not make you a member of anything. Earnest belief makes you a "member" of the faith. Membership in a local church body is pursued separately. You can't make a person a member of a faith by force. It's a contradiction in terms.

even Islam holds to this. Only a single sincere recitation of the Shahadah is required - but you can hardly force sincerity, nor can you make a dead person into a follower.

What you are complaining about is a local liturgical practice that is meaningless in any material way with respect to faith and spiritual state. The fact that you haven't grasped perhaps the most basic of all concepts of abrahamic faiths seems to indicate you know very little about the subject upon which we are speaking.

I'm not Catholic - far from it - but if a Catholic chaplain found me gravely injured on the battlefield and performed the Annointing of the Sick on me, it doesn't make me Catholic nor does it give me belief. Frankly he's only praying for me and I don't see how praying for someone can be offensive. You can't stop people from praying for you.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:51 PM   #93
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The folks who boycott stores for not saying Merry Christmas enough are cool with Mormon baptisms on their dead relatives.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:52 PM   #94
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The folks who boycott stores for not saying Merry Christmas enough are cool with Mormon baptisms on their dead relatives.
They can say whatever they want, I can shop wherever I want. Freedom reigns.
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The folks who boycott stores for not saying Merry Christmas enough are cool with Mormon baptisms on their dead relatives.
The guy who responds to every Obama thread with, "This isn't news," goes on and on about baptism.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:54 PM   #96
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:58 PM   #97
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it's apparent you have little understanding of the meaning of baptism or how a person becomes a "member" of a religion.

Baptism in Chrisitan faiths does not make you a member of anything. Earnest belief makes you a "member" of the faith. Membership in a local church body is pursued separately. You can't make a person a member of a faith by force. It's a contradiction in terms.

even Islam holds to this. Only a single sincere recitation of the Shahadah is required - but you can hardly force sincerity, nor can you make a dead person into a follower.

What you are complaining about is a local liturgical practice that is meaningless in any material way with respect to faith and spiritual state. The fact that you haven't grasped perhaps the most basic of all concepts of abrahamic faiths seems to indicate you know very little about the subject upon which we are speaking.

I'm not Catholic - far from it - but if a Catholic chaplain found me gravely injured on the battlefield and performed the Annointing of the Sick on me, it doesn't make me Catholic nor does it give me belief. Frankly he's only praying for me and I don't see how praying for someone can be offensive. You can't stop people from praying for you.
I don't believe it "makes" you Mormon. They see it differently.
And it is not just praying. And a difference between your battlefield analogy is that the Mormon church KNOWS these people were/are not Mormon. Its not a battlefield expression of comfort. It is an incredibly disrepectful act on someone who already chose their faith.
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I don't believe it "makes" you Mormon. They see it differently.
And it is not just praying. And a difference between your battlefield analogy is that the Mormon church KNOWS these people were/are not Mormon. Its not a battlefield expression of comfort. It is an incredibly disrepectful act on someone who already chose their faith.
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I don't believe it "makes" you Mormon. They see it differently.
And it is not just praying. And a difference between your battlefield analogy is that the Mormon church KNOWS these people were/are not Mormon. Its not a battlefield expression of comfort. It is an incredibly disrepectful act on someone who already chose their faith.
I am a Christian. I believe the Mormon religion is false.

That being said, if one of them found my corpse and performed some rite on it I couldn't care less. I believe their religion is false so what they are doing has no meaning. If I ended up dead in Saudi Arabia and was given a Muslim burial, I don't care about that either. I'm dead. I believe their religion is false and so the motions they are going through have no meaning, and my faith is eternally secure. They can't "make" me a Mormon. Their actions are meaningless so why would I find this deeply offensive?
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The folks who boycott stores for not saying Merry Christmas enough are cool with Mormon baptisms on their dead relatives.
In May 2009, it was discovered that President Barack Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, "who died in 1995, was baptized posthumously into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day [sic] Saints last year during her son's campaign. The White House declined to comment Tuesday [May 5, 2009]."[61] The June 4, 2008 baptism was performed in the Provo Utah Temple, and a week later the ritual of endowment was performed on behalf of Dunham. LDS Church spokesman Scott Trotter confirmed that someone did perform a proxy baptism for Dunham, but said it was "counter to [LDS] Church policy for a church member to submit names for baptism for persons to whom they are not related."
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In May 2009, it was discovered that President Barack Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, "who died in 1995, was baptized posthumously into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day [sic] Saints last year during her son's campaign. The White House declined to comment Tuesday [May 5, 2009]."[61] The June 4, 2008 baptism was performed in the Provo Utah Temple, and a week later the ritual of endowment was performed on behalf of Dunham. LDS Church spokesman Scott Trotter confirmed that someone did perform a proxy baptism for Dunham, but said it was "counter to [LDS] Church policy for a church member to submit names for baptism for persons to whom they are not related."
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Well, that's interesting. It's against church policy and you have to be related. You also don't need the body to be present. So its basically some people sitting in a room far away and long after you are dead, talking about you.
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In May 2009, it was discovered that President Barack Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, "who died in 1995, was baptized posthumously into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day [sic] Saints last year during her son's campaign. The White House declined to comment Tuesday [May 5, 2009]."[61] The June 4, 2008 baptism was performed in the Provo Utah Temple, and a week later the ritual of endowment was performed on behalf of Dunham. LDS Church spokesman Scott Trotter confirmed that someone did perform a proxy baptism for Dunham, but said it was "counter to [LDS] Church policy for a church member to submit names for baptism for persons to whom they are not related."
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I am a Christian. I believe the Mormon religion is false.

That being said, if one of them found my corpse and performed some rite on it I couldn't care less. I believe their religion is false so what they are doing has no meaning. If I ended up dead in Saudi Arabia and was given a Muslim burial, I don't care about that either. I'm dead. I believe their religion is false and so the motions they are going through have no meaning, and my faith is eternally secure. They can't "make" me a Mormon. Their actions are meaningless so why would I find this deeply offensive?
Apparently it's exclusively Obama supporters who (suddenly) find stuff like this offensive. Personally, I'm far more offended by the way they imposed their ridiculous hopenchange faith on me 4 years ago, but I'm pretty confident an intervention is about to be held for the sake of all of us.
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Apparently it's exclusively Obama supporters who (suddenly) find stuff like this offensive. Personally, I'm far more offended by the way they imposed their ridiculous hopenchange faith on me 4 years ago, but I'm pretty confident an intervention is about to be held for the sake of all of us.
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