****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

[Saul Good]

the second thread has been pronounced dead.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

While I don't see the SEC wanting Duke, it's not necessarily about the football product they would bring. The move into NC is about TV's, period.

UNC or NCST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Duke.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

UNC or NCST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Duke.

Definitely.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You would think that but an unstable ACC would cause some of the prizes in it to shake free. If the ACC is #4 on the pecking list I don't think you would see North Carolina become available IMO.

That's why I think the SEC would love it. UNC is on the market, and the SEC doesn't have ACC blood on its hands.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

UNC or NCST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Duke.

UNC
Virginia
Virginia Tech
NC State

That's the order, and there is a huge gap between each.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Sorry, that was in the thread I took this info from, but wasn't in the OP. Basically, nobody buys it because why would the SEC consider Ville and not FSU? Rumors were that U of L was willing to take less money permanently in order to come on board, but most don't give that rumor any credibility. Sorry, I got my threads mixed.

The SEC will NOT take Louisville. Period.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's why I think the SEC would love it. UNC is on the market, and the SEC doesn't have ACC blood on its hands.

Big 12 with Texas seems to be more of a threat to poach the ACC than anything else sans the Big Ten. A wounded animal (Big 12) is more likely to make a strike.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Big 12 with Texas seems to be more of a threat to poach the ACC than anything else sans the Big Ten. A wounded animal (Big 12) is more likely to make a strike.

No school is going to choose a Texasless Big XII over the SEC. Hell, no school is going to choose the Big XII over the SEC WITH Texas.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

No school is going to choose a Texasless Big XII over the SEC. Hell, no school is going to choose the Big XII over the SEC WITH Texas.

You are clearly not getting my point. If the PAC-12 takes the Texas/Oklahoma combo with the other 2, then the SEC/Big Ten is going to have a harder time to pluck teams from the ACC. ACC would then be the #4 confernce in the country and would have a seat at the table for sure and North Carolina would be less likely to leave. Big 12 plucking away at the southern ACC schools like FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami etc would put the ACC ripe for the SEC and Big Ten plucking for the prime ACC schools.

[HolyHandgernade]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

The SEC will NOT take Louisville. Period.

I agree, even an expanded B12 does not covet Louisville.

[HolyHandgernade]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You are clearly not getting my point. If the PAC-12 takes the Texas/Oklahoma combo with the other 2, then the SEC/Big Ten is going to have a harder time to pluck teams from the ACC. ACC would then be the #4 confernce in the country and would have a seat at the table for sure and North Carolina would be less likely to leave. Big 12 plucking away at the southern ACC schools like FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami etc would put the ACC ripe for the SEC and Big Ten plucking for the prime ACC schools.

It doesn't matter, its not going to happen anyway. Texas wants to be in this region and they are the financial kingpin of their own conference. They have no interest in leaving. The partnership between the SEC and B12 guarantees their status in the pecking order, there is no incentive for teams to leave the B12.

The only discussion in the B12 right now is do we expand, and if so, by how much with whom. The B12 is actually very profitable with 10.

Now, what happens if there is no movement and the ESPN contract is not signed? That could open the B12 up for other bidders. That's why the extension hasn't been signed, It has nothing to do with discord, it has to do with maximizing the value. Once a contract is signed, its difficult to get it reopened, so the B12 is being pragmatic.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

It doesn't matter, its not going to happen anyway. Texas wants to be in this region and they are the financial kingpin of their own conference. They have no interest in leaving. The partnership between the SEC and B12 guarantees their status in the pecking order, there is no incentive for teams to leave the B12.

The only discussion in the B12 right now is do we expand, and if so, by how much with whom. The B12 is actually very profitable with 10.

Now, what happens if there is no movement and the ESPN contract is not signed? That could open the B12 up for other bidders. That's why the extension hasn't been signed, It has nothing to do with discord, it has to do with maximizing the value. Once a contract is signed, its difficult to get it reopened, so the B12 is being pragmatic.

The Big 12 schools are bringing in so much with their 10 team deal that there are only one or two programs in America that make any sense to add. A 10 team round robin is fun. Gets a true Champion in the league every year and avoids the pitfalls of the extra game loss derailing a Big 12 team going to the NC game.

At least that's what we're being told...

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You are clearly not getting my point. If the PAC-12 takes the Texas/Oklahoma combo with the other 2, then the SEC/Big Ten is going to have a harder time to pluck teams from the ACC. ACC would then be the #4 confernce in the country and would have a seat at the table for sure and North Carolina would be less likely to leave. Big 12 plucking away at the southern ACC schools like FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami etc would put the ACC ripe for the SEC and Big Ten plucking for the prime ACC schools.

The PAC 12??? How many times do you guys have to hear that is never going to happen and never was. Enough, let's get some fresh ideas going here.

[alnorth]

It might be nothing, but Clemson is making "a major announcement" on Friday.

http://features.clemson.edu/inside-c...med-%20friday/

Also, in possibly unrelated news, today Clemson cancelled their series later this decade against Ole Miss and Oklahoma State.

edit: Some Clemson people are thinking that it'll probably be to celebrate the success of a big fundraising drive to pay for something, so it probably is nothing.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

It seems like you're still an asshole who can't read. I'm relating what others have said, not what I believe will or won't happen. If you don't want to read it, then just ignore me or the thread. It is relevant to the OP unlike the garbage that spews from your ass.

Thing is this though, you are quoting of all sources the Scout WVU board who has perpetually been wrong on almost any and every aspect of conference realignment. This reflects on you and while it may or may not be your opinion, it definitely should not be a source that you should put too much stock into.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

While I don't see the SEC wanting Duke, it's not necessarily about the football product they would bring. The move into NC is about TV's, period.

Ummm, no. People in NC are close enough to SEC country they can watch games almost at will. They won't shell out extra dough for an SEC Network or watch more SEC games because Duke is there. I am willing to bet Duke's fanbase for their football program is not that high either. If the SEC wants the NC market, they need to bring in a school that will actually be of interest to those in NC, and almost any school there does that from a FB perspective more than Duke would.