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What is it with motorcycle ads?

Seems like every bike I look at says something stupid like, no BS, serious inquires only, no tire kicking, don't waste my time. Give me a friggen break, you're are not selling a learjet bro.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:57 AM   #46
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What am I looking at? Bunch of people asking more than me with a couple stunt bikes for lower and 1 frankenstein bike.

There's only 1 bike in there thats a better deal and its from a guy just looking for someone to pay off his loan.

The first ad features a '06 clean with 4,700 miles at $5k. That is a better deal than yours. I've been around this a long time, I still have a first year GSXR air cooled. What you are selling is damaged goods in the view of this market.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:06 AM   #47
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The first ad features a '06 clean with 4,700 miles at $5k. That is a better deal than yours. I've been around this a long time, I still have a first year GSXR air cooled. What you are selling is damaged goods in the view of this market.
You are going to set market value on 1 bike? Really?

Flip through those ads and count how many bikes you can find that are actually F4i's, not stunt bikes, and clean titles for less than what I'm asking.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:16 AM   #48
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You are going to set market value on 1 bike? Really?

Flip through those ads and count how many bikes you can find that are actually F4i's, not stunt bikes, and clean titles for less than what I'm asking.
Well, again, I'm speaking from experience. Just offering some help. You are selling a ten year old intermediate level japanese road racer with road rash and near 30k miles. There are hundreds of F4i for sale across the US that are in prestine shape. That is going to be a tough sale at your asking price. Good luck.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:16 AM   #49
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Hypersports are fun, but there are a few drawbacks and considerations to take into account. I've had 3 in the last 8 yrs; CBR F4i, ZX6r (R.I.P.), and CBR600rr (liked the RR the best). Sold the RR last May.
I'm not sure if this is your first one, or if there are others reading this who are considering a 'first one'….but.

My personal thoughts with them:
--around here in KS, there are virtually no fun roads to blast through. And the ones that are, the Po-Po usually know about.

--Good roads (I'm talking really good) are 3 hours away minimum (unless you blast some alphabets in Clinton, MO or up in Liberty/Excelsior Springs etc)…but they can be iffy with gravel, potholes etc).

--can get really cramped. Actually, they are quite comfortable if you're leaning them over/sliding in the seat side-to-side etc; but that only comes with good curves.

--they make killer power; and if you've never ridden one you 'think' it's powerful in the lower RPM; but they REALLY make power around 9500/10k +RPM. You'll be amazed. So around town etc, if you're really in the meat of the power band, you're probably going to jail if pulled over lol.

--rear tires can wear quickly depending on your throttle hand. I got about 4000-4500 out of mine typically and I was pretty tame a majority of the time. So depending on how much you ride/how you ride, you might be looking at a rear and possible a set each riding season.

-- You'll be a cop magnet. Each summer (according to my BIL who's a trooper), they carve out a few weeks and specifically target 'aggressive driving'. He said they call it that, but in reality they're mainly looking for bikes. Due to high theft rates, you'll probably get stopped, or approached at gas stations (if cops are there getting coffee etc) to check your papers etc. This has happened to me at least 3 times.

--99% of the time, a 600 hyper engine will make more than enough power for you. You'll probably only ride it to 'maybe' 50% of it's potential around town…and that's probably generous. I'm 6' about 245 and my RR rocketed me around more than fine.

--fairings are $$. If it tips in a parking lot, etc, chances are you'll crack the side fairings, and possibly the front depending on how it falls. Get frame and swing arm sliders if you can afford them; the good ones.

--1000cc hypers can get you in trouble really fast if you're not experienced. Yeah, I know there are a lot of guys who have them etc, but if you're riding them how a sportbike is supposed to be ridden (not just pinning the throttle and going in a straight line), the power and torque of the 1000's can break the rear loose when leaned over if you're not careful with the throttle. I've seen dudes that get into a corner, and downshift - they end up in a gear where the RPMs are in the meat of the power curve; exit the curve, and blip - ……back steps out, and they're off. Just 'like' that. The 600s ar a bit more forgiving in that regard - although it's still possible to step out.


Anyway; just a few things to consider from my POV.

My next bike will be more of a 'standard' bike / less aggressive riding position. My short list: Ducati Monster 796/1100, Aprilia Shiver or possibly Tuono, Kawi Z1000 (this is probably the most likely), Triumph Speed Triple. Would love a nice used VFR though.
However………..I really eyeing a DRZ400SM to hooligan around on. Not practical at all, but would be fun as hell.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:17 AM   #50
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:19 AM   #51
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My next bike will be more of a 'standard' bike / less aggressive riding position. My short list: Ducati Monster 796/1100, Aprilia Shiver or possibly Tuono, Kawi Z1000 (this is probably the most likely), Triumph Speed Triple. Would love a nice used VFR though.
However………..I really eyeing a DRZ400SM to hooligan around on. Not practical at all, but would be fun as hell.
Same way I want to go. Pretty much only looking at the Speed/street triple and the CB1000r.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:21 AM   #52
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Same way I want to go. Pretty much only looking at the Speed/street triple and the CB1000r.
I actually hadn't heard about the CB1000r.... that is wicked looking.

When the new Z1000 style came out, I hated it. But it's reallllly grown on me since.
I believe they're geared a bit lower, and have a little more low end torque than the typicall 1000 sport tuned engine.

Sort of the best of both worlds; lots of torque/power, can lay into curves with the best of them; can ride for long distances comfortably etc.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:23 AM   #53
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Only problem with them is that the aftermarket support is shit.

Those types of bikes aren't really popular in the US.
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yep. a guy I know had a hell of a time just finding after market cans for the Z. granted, that was when they first came out, but still.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:28 AM   #55
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Hypersports are fun, but there are a few drawbacks and considerations to take into account. I've had 3 in the last 8 yrs; CBR F4i, ZX6r (R.I.P.), and CBR600rr (liked the RR the best). Sold the RR last May.
I'm not sure if this is your first one, or if there are others reading this who are considering a 'first one'….but.

My personal thoughts with them:
--around here in KS, there are virtually no fun roads to blast through. And the ones that are, the Po-Po usually know about.

--Good roads (I'm talking really good) are 3 hours away minimum (unless you blast some alphabets in Clinton, MO or up in Liberty/Excelsior Springs etc)…but they can be iffy with gravel, potholes etc).

--can get really cramped. Actually, they are quite comfortable if you're leaning them over/sliding in the seat side-to-side etc; but that only comes with good curves.

--they make killer power; and if you've never ridden one you 'think' it's powerful in the lower RPM; but they REALLY make power around 9500/10k +RPM. You'll be amazed. So around town etc, if you're really in the meat of the power band, you're probably going to jail if pulled over lol.

--rear tires can wear quickly depending on your throttle hand. I got about 4000-4500 out of mine typically and I was pretty tame a majority of the time. So depending on how much you ride/how you ride, you might be looking at a rear and possible a set each riding season.

-- You'll be a cop magnet. Each summer (according to my BIL who's a trooper), they carve out a few weeks and specifically target 'aggressive driving'. He said they call it that, but in reality they're mainly looking for bikes. Due to high theft rates, you'll probably get stopped, or approached at gas stations (if cops are there getting coffee etc) to check your papers etc. This has happened to me at least 3 times.

--99% of the time, a 600 hyper engine will make more than enough power for you. You'll probably only ride it to 'maybe' 50% of it's potential around town…and that's probably generous. I'm 6' about 245 and my RR rocketed me around more than fine.

--fairings are $$. If it tips in a parking lot, etc, chances are you'll crack the side fairings, and possibly the front depending on how it falls. Get frame and swing arm sliders if you can afford them; the good ones.

--1000cc hypers can get you in trouble really fast if you're not experienced. Yeah, I know there are a lot of guys who have them etc, but if you're riding them how a sportbike is supposed to be ridden (not just pinning the throttle and going in a straight line), the power and torque of the 1000's can break the rear loose when leaned over if you're not careful with the throttle. I've seen dudes that get into a corner, and downshift - they end up in a gear where the RPMs are in the meat of the power curve; exit the curve, and blip - ……back steps out, and they're off. Just 'like' that. The 600s ar a bit more forgiving in that regard - although it's still possible to step out.


Anyway; just a few things to consider from my POV.

My next bike will be more of a 'standard' bike / less aggressive riding position. My short list: Ducati Monster 796/1100, Aprilia Shiver or possibly Tuono, Kawi Z1000 (this is probably the most likely), Triumph Speed Triple. Would love a nice used VFR though.
However………..I really eyeing a DRZ400SM to hooligan around on. Not practical at all, but would be fun as hell.
agreed. a lot of 1k riders do not know wtf they are doing grabbing all that throttle. But it only takes a few milliseconds to learn them

I would not own a road racer in this area, KC. There are a few roads south and east, but the police are all over them.

This is V Max country
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:32 AM   #56
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Hypersports are fun, but there are a few drawbacks and considerations to take into account. I've had 3 in the last 8 yrs; CBR F4i, ZX6r (R.I.P.), and CBR600rr (liked the RR the best). Sold the RR last May.
I'm not sure if this is your first one, or if there are others reading this who are considering a 'first one'….but.

My personal thoughts with them:
--around here in KS, there are virtually no fun roads to blast through. And the ones that are, the Po-Po usually know about.

--Good roads (I'm talking really good) are 3 hours away minimum (unless you blast some alphabets in Clinton, MO or up in Liberty/Excelsior Springs etc)…but they can be iffy with gravel, potholes etc).

--can get really cramped. Actually, they are quite comfortable if you're leaning them over/sliding in the seat side-to-side etc; but that only comes with good curves.

--they make killer power; and if you've never ridden one you 'think' it's powerful in the lower RPM; but they REALLY make power around 9500/10k +RPM. You'll be amazed. So around town etc, if you're really in the meat of the power band, you're probably going to jail if pulled over lol.

--rear tires can wear quickly depending on your throttle hand. I got about 4000-4500 out of mine typically and I was pretty tame a majority of the time. So depending on how much you ride/how you ride, you might be looking at a rear and possible a set each riding season.

-- You'll be a cop magnet. Each summer (according to my BIL who's a trooper), they carve out a few weeks and specifically target 'aggressive driving'. He said they call it that, but in reality they're mainly looking for bikes. Due to high theft rates, you'll probably get stopped, or approached at gas stations (if cops are there getting coffee etc) to check your papers etc. This has happened to me at least 3 times.

--99% of the time, a 600 hyper engine will make more than enough power for you. You'll probably only ride it to 'maybe' 50% of it's potential around town…and that's probably generous. I'm 6' about 245 and my RR rocketed me around more than fine.

--fairings are $$. If it tips in a parking lot, etc, chances are you'll crack the side fairings, and possibly the front depending on how it falls. Get frame and swing arm sliders if you can afford them; the good ones.

--1000cc hypers can get you in trouble really fast if you're not experienced. Yeah, I know there are a lot of guys who have them etc, but if you're riding them how a sportbike is supposed to be ridden (not just pinning the throttle and going in a straight line), the power and torque of the 1000's can break the rear loose when leaned over if you're not careful with the throttle. I've seen dudes that get into a corner, and downshift - they end up in a gear where the RPMs are in the meat of the power curve; exit the curve, and blip - ……back steps out, and they're off. Just 'like' that. The 600s ar a bit more forgiving in that regard - although it's still possible to step out.


Anyway; just a few things to consider from my POV.

My next bike will be more of a 'standard' bike / less aggressive riding position. My short list: Ducati Monster 796/1100, Aprilia Shiver or possibly Tuono, Kawi Z1000 (this is probably the most likely), Triumph Speed Triple. Would love a nice used VFR though.
However………..I really eyeing a DRZ400SM to hooligan around on. Not practical at all, but would be fun as hell.

You have probably forgotten more then I will ever know about streetbikes.

Still an interesting read, though.
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I do not own a V Max, but I am looking at perhaps keeping one here in KC and that one is def on my list. I have ridden one, a friend in LA has one. They are a joy to ride, lots of HP, great low end midrange and comfortable to ride in town. And, they do awesome smoke rings
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--rear tires can wear quickly depending on your throttle hand. I got about 4000-4500 out of mine typically and I was pretty tame a majority of the time. So depending on how much you ride/how you ride, you might be looking at a rear and possible a set each riding season.
People buy the wrong tires. I've put maybe around 10k miles on my tires (Pilot Road 2CT) so far and the back has just barely started to flatten. The back probably has a good season or 2 left.

Just riding on the street? Save yourself some money and get a Pilot Road instead of the Pilot Power.
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yeah, the MP Roads are good. suitable for probably 100% of the riders in the city etc and wear great.
the ones that were cooked the quickest for me were the OEMs. I think they were all Bridgestones.
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