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Old 01-31-2012, 01:52 PM  
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:57 AM   #4336
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Maybe at some point, but the current playoff agreement is 12 years beginning in 2014. Why would he require the Big 12 to be at 12 schools by 2014? That just dilutes the pool for this current contract.

I think the Baylor guy is getting bad info or incomplete info. The Big 12 adding someone like Louisville and BYU does nothing for the SEC.
The way I understand it, the revenue is split by conference before being subdivided by teams. If this is correct, more Big XII teams wouldn't impact the SEC's cut.

Also, I don't think BYU is a factor, but destabilizing the ACC might be.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:45 AM   #4337
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This game is poised to become the national semi-final. I doubt the SEC wants the winner of a ten team conference to get the same cache as the winner of the SEC.
Scrolling through some of the theories, the B1G, PAC and SEC all want the B12 to go to 12 teams. They think the lack of the B12 having to put its champion through a CCG gives it an unfair advantage. Also, the CCGs build more hype for these bowls.

From my understanding, this game will not be in the "regular rotation", maybe once every three years. Dallas will be the home for the game, but it will alternate to New Orleans in years it is a national semi-final.
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:33 PM   #4338
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"People have tried to float the "CCG required" for the Champions Bowl rumor before. As of when the contracts were signed, it's not true. The Big XII owns 50% of the Champions Bowl. They're not going to agree to a rule that forces them to expand unless they're 100% guaranteed to get exactly whom they're targeting. That doesn't mean the contract couldn't be amended, but that doesn't pass the smell test.

As for expansion, as I've said from the beginning (for 3+ months now), it is highly highly unlikely the Big XII expands before the deadline to withdraw. Further, I've also said that the Big XII is pretty adverse to breaking major news during the football season. So, it's always looked like next year before mid-summer would be the timeline (likely in the late winter/early spring).

I know all the blog writing charlatans want people to believe there's all kinds of negotiations and discussions taking place behind closed doors, but that's just not the case. The Big XII has ZILCH to pitch FSU, GA Tech, Clemson, or others until the financial aspect of the playoff is known (#1), how SOS and conference champs are going to be emphasized w/ the selection committee (#2), what the final Big XII tv package is going to look like (#3), and what the financial ramifications of the Champions Bowl will be (#4).

All of those (especially #s 1-3) must be hammered out and signed, sealed, and delivered before the Big XII has anything to talk to anybody about. It's just going to take some time to get all of those details settled.

The Big XII is interested in GA Tech, that is true. However, the administrators at GA Tech are not interested in the Big XII at this juncture. It would take a really fantastic sales pitch to land them. It could happen, but I'd call that a significantly longer shot than FSU.

But, the Big XII knows that if it wants FSU, it absolutely has to land one of Clemson, GA Tech, or Miami as well. There are some key boosters at GA Tech that are strongly interested, and they're the ones that reached out to the Big XII about 2 months ago for information. So, anything could happen."
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:51 PM   #4339
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The first paragraph is baseless speculation. Of course the agreement could have come with stipulations.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:51 PM   #4340
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The Big 12 isn't adding Clemson. They simply aren't relevent. Time to move to new rumors.
Are you kidding? Aside from FSU and ND, Clemson would be one of the most attractive schools out there
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:02 PM   #4341
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Are you kidding? Aside from FSU and ND, Clemson would be one of the most attractive schools out there
Hypocritson does not think Clemson's endowment is good enough.
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:19 PM   #4342
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Hypocritson does not think Clemson's endowment is good enough.
TV Ratings ought to trump endowment. They did very well on TV last year.
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:23 PM   #4343
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TV Ratings ought to trump endowment. They did very well on TV last year.
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:28 PM   #4344
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TV Ratings ought to trump endowment. They did very well on TV last year.
I would agree...I think Clemson would be a good addition to the Big XII.
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Are you kidding? Aside from FSU and ND, Clemson would be one of the most attractive schools out there
KU fan claiming that Clemson isn't relevant in a football discussion is awesome.
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If I were to paint my dream scenario assuming no ND:

SEC gets UNC and UVA

B12 gets FSU, Clemson, G Tech, V Tech, NC St and Louisville


SEC-Big12 Challenge over the first four weeks of the college season:

FSU-UF
GTech-UGA
Clemson-USC
NC St-UNC
VTech-UVA
Louisville-UK
UT-A&M
KU-MU
OU-Bama (Crimson and Cream vs Crimson Tide)
OSU-Tenn (Orange Crush)
ISU-Vanderbilt (We're in these conferences too!)
KSU-Auburn (Wildcats and Tigers)
TTech-Ole Miss (Red Raiders and Rebels)
Baylor-Miss St (Bears and Bulldogs)
WVU-LSU (Mountains and Swamps)
TCU-Arkansas (Jerry's Jumbo Jubilee)

Week 1:

East Coast Early: VTech-UVA
Noon: TTech-Ole Miss
Late Afternoon: TCU-Arkansas
Prime Time: WVU-LSU

Week 2:

East Coast Early: GTech-UGA
Noon: ISU-Vanderbilt
Late Afternoon: OSU-Tenn
Prime Time: OU-Bama

Week 3:

East Coast Early: NC St-UNC
Noon: Louisville-UK
Late Afternoon: KSU-Auburn
Prime Time: UT-A&M

Week 4:

East Coast Early: Clemson-USC
Noon: Baylor-Miss St
Late Afternoon: KU-MU
Prime Time: FSU-UF

Could you imagine the extra cash we could demand for that setup? That's a ratings bonanza ESPN couldn't refuse.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:34 AM   #4348
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If I were to paint my dream scenario assuming no ND:

SEC gets UNC and UVA

B12 gets FSU, Clemson, G Tech, V Tech, NC St and Louisville


SEC-Big12 Challenge over the first four weeks of the college season:

FSU-UF
GTech-UGA
Clemson-USC
NC St-UNC
VTech-UVA
Louisville-UK
UT-A&M
KU-MU
OU-Bama (Crimson and Cream vs Crimson Tide)
OSU-Tenn (Orange Crush)
ISU-Vanderbilt (We're in these conferences too!)
KSU-Auburn (Wildcats and Tigers)
TTech-Ole Miss (Red Raiders and Rebels)
Baylor-Miss St (Bears and Bulldogs)
WVU-LSU (Mountains and Swamps)
TCU-Arkansas (Jerry's Jumbo Jubilee)

Week 1:

East Coast Early: VTech-UVA
Noon: TTech-Ole Miss
Late Afternoon: TCU-Arkansas
Prime Time: WVU-LSU

Week 2:

East Coast Early: GTech-UGA
Noon: ISU-Vanderbilt
Late Afternoon: OSU-Tenn
Prime Time: OU-Bama

Week 3:

East Coast Early: NC St-UNC
Noon: Louisville-UK
Late Afternoon: KSU-Auburn
Prime Time: UT-A&M

Week 4:

East Coast Early: Clemson-USC
Noon: Baylor-Miss St
Late Afternoon: KU-MU
Prime Time: FSU-UF

Could you imagine the extra cash we could demand for that setup? That's a ratings bonanza ESPN couldn't refuse.
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mizzou better be playing a better school than kansas if that happens...
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Nah, id rather play Kansas in that scenario. Regardless of the feelings between us, its still a damn good rivalry.
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