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Old 07-20-2012, 10:50 AM  
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Gun Control

We have all heard about what happened in Aurora, Co, and I think that Gun Control is going to be a huge topic in the following months.


What measures need to be taken? Do you have any ideas that will help prevent this kind of thing from happening again as it pertains to guns?
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:59 AM   #226
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You guys act like gun owners just throw lead wherever they please.


A vest stops the bullet, not the energy behind it. A bullet would have put him down or slowed him, or drawn fire so that others would get a chance to take cover.

Educate yourself.
I guarantee you in a chaotic situation like that people would have blindly emptied their clips
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:00 AM   #227
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I didn't say that I wanted more laws. I started this thread to get the scum out of the lounge, and it's turned out to be a pretty good move.

I own a small arsenal in rural Kansas. Of course I am against new laws.
Fair enough.

Please disregard the

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Old 07-21-2012, 11:04 AM   #228
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I guarantee you in a chaotic situation like that people would have blindly emptied their clips
How do you have any idea how individuals would react?


I am done arguing with you. There is simply no point.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:07 AM   #229
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Or more people could have been killed by the cowboy gun owner blindly firing into a smoke filled theater. Not to mention Holmes was wearing a vest
Could you be more ignorant?
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:13 AM   #230
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I'm in favor of tighter gun regulation. But it's one of the most unpleasant subjects for me to discuss consider how emotional pro-gun folks tend to get about the issue.

I'd rather discuss abortion with a pro-lifer.
Yay!

Its okay to destroy a fetus, but we don't want guns...
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:20 AM   #231
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Yay!

Its okay to destroy a fetus, but we don't want guns...
Ouch.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:27 AM   #232
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A background check is not the same as a required waiting period. Keep in mind it is my understanding that a waiting period is not necessary for those with a valid permit. I am sure you are aware of this but I will post it anyways.



http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/nics

Had a 2 week waiting period been in place, it still wouldn't have changed what happened. The last weapon purchased was on 6 July, the killing happened 20 July.....
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:29 AM   #233
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notorious and Dave pretty much said what I would've said.

Now excuse me while I take my cowboy ass and guns outside and wildly fire them everywhere while rolling on the ground and diving over bushes. Hide yo bitches and chiddens! Here I iz!
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:31 AM   #234
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Gas masks aren't bullet proof.

Any gun owner worth his salt can get a head shot at 20ft, easily.

Sorry Dave, performing a headshot while both the target and the shooter are moving is hard as ****..Even more so when there are rounds in the air..Not so hard when you're on the range...

But I do agree a criminal who believes there is any chance that there is someone else as well armed as he is will consider a softer target...
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:43 AM   #235
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I think every single household in America should be required by law to have a single barreled shotgun in their home. If they are Anti-Gun you can choose to never buy a shell for it... I guarantee you home invasions and burglaries would drop 50% the first year.

I think you should be able to legally carry anywhere in the USA as long as you are not drinking or on mind altering drugs.

Have you ever noticed the places that get shot up with multiple deaths always seem to be a place where Guns are not allowed? Columbine, VT, Now This..

Stiffen the penalty for using guns in violent acts and make them serve federal time when they do.

More gun control is absurd...

Some people talk about High Capacity Magazines , What difference does it make? I can carry 6 mags on my belt carrying 13 bullets each and drop and empty one and reload in less that 2 seconds. Only Law Abiding Citizens read the "No Guns Allowed" signs on doors... The person getting ready to shoot up the place or rob you don't give a rats ass about your little sign.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:53 AM   #236
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Stiffen the penalty for using guns in violent acts and make them serve federal time when they do.

If you make it State time and not federal....I agree with everything else you said....

State time is a ton harder time then federal...Other then the parole/good time for State convicts
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:59 AM   #237
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If you make it State time and not federal....I agree with everything else you said....

State time is a ton harder time then federal...Other then the parole/good time for State convicts
Which ever is tougher... I am for

I want to see an end to plea bargains and good time for gun crimes .. If the Judge gives you 25 years you serve 25
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:18 PM   #238
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Which ever is tougher... I am for

I want to see an end to plea bargains and good time for gun crimes .. If the Judge gives you 25 years you serve 25

And right there is where you curb gun crimes, besides concealed/open carry....
Harder sentencing and no good time/parole for those convicted.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:20 PM   #239
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I think every single household in America should be required by law to have a single barreled shotgun in their home. If they are Anti-Gun you can choose to never buy a shell for it... I guarantee you home invasions and burglaries would drop 50% the first year.

I think you should be able to legally carry anywhere in the USA as long as you are not drinking or on mind altering drugs.

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More gun control is absurd...

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So people think the govt shouldn't be able to require you to purchase health insurance should be able to force you to buy a gun from a firearm company? Or should the government provide the gun?
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This article pretty much says it all.

The shrinking gun control caucus

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An October 2011 Gallup Poll found that 73 percent of Americans would not support a ban on owning handguns except by law enforcement – the highest level of opposition since in more than 50 years. The National Rifle Association also enjoys considerable public backing, with 68 percent of Americans holding favorable views of the gun group, according to an April Reuters/Ipsos poll.
Nothing is going to happen. Absolutely nothing. The NRA would not be this powerful without strong support from the people.
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