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Old 07-19-2012, 03:23 PM  
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I'm calling it. The guy is going to lose in an electoral landslide.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:52 AM   #196
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You guys might want to pull your heads out of the conservative echo-chamber every now and then. Your boy is shitting the bed right now. Kerry pt. II.

Here's an ad currently running in 5 swing states:



I agree this is ad is major pandering and pretty cheesy - but it's pretty damn effective with the target audience (IE - not most of this forum).

I look forward to the Romney camp whining about this ad all over the place and giving it 10x more exposure - just like the first Obama ad, then the tax return and Harry Reid stuff. Some real geniuses he's got running that campaign so far.

Any week that goes by with the attention focuses on Mitt's taxes is a win for Obama. The stuff with Reid is a huge win for Obama. Imagine if Obama were embroiled in a public pissing contest with Mitch McConnel right now. That's a no-win.
It's worse than "major pandering and pretty cheesy". Try "reprehensibly deceptive smear job with no validity whatsoever".
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:03 AM   #197
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Apparently, bigotry against a choice you make is ok, but bigotry against a natural state of your birth is not. OK, I get that.

All women who have abortions are scumbags. By choice.
What if you join a group that is bigoted?
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:05 AM   #198
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Try "reprehensibly deceptive smear job with no validity whatsoever".
Kind of like Romney's position that Obama is trying to stop military personnel from voting in Ohio.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:33 AM   #199
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Kind of like Romney's position that Obama is trying to stop military personnel from voting in Ohio.
I'd say it's worse. At least Obama is actually involved in an effort to change the relative voting opportunities of military vs civilian voters in Ohio. There's not even that much truth in the smear ad that suzzer99 posted.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:36 AM   #200
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What if you join a group that is bigoted?
Who gets to decide if it's bigoted?
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:42 AM   #201
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What if you join a group that is bigoted?
If you join a group that is bigoted, then by proxy you are a bigot. If you join a group that is not bigoted but OTHER people think it's bigoted, then the OTHER people are bigots.

See Tea Party.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:58 AM   #202
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I'd say it's worse. At least Obama is actually involved in an effort to change the relative voting opportunities of military vs civilian voters in Ohio. There's not even that much truth in the smear ad that suzzer99 posted.
lol of course you would. Obama is just trying to change it back to what it was prior to last year where ALL Ohioan's could vote early not just military people.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:00 AM   #203
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If you join a group that is bigoted, then by proxy you are a bigot. If you join a group that is not bigoted but OTHER people think it's bigoted, then the OTHER people are bigots.

See Tea Party.
So you agree that it may be acceptable to be bigoted towards a group that people choose to join?
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:08 AM   #204
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lol of course you would. Obama is just trying to change it back to what it was prior to last year where ALL Ohioan's could vote early not just military people.
Romney didn't do anything to that guy. And not only that, but his wife continued to have a job with insurance even after he was laid off by someone other than Romney. The ad is a baseless smear from terrible people.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:09 AM   #205
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Bear in mind that Obama did not make nor endorse that ad, and isn't allowed to talk or coordinate with the people who did.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:05 AM   #206
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So you agree that it may be acceptable to be bigoted towards a group that people choose to join?
It may be. I'd rather look at it as not so much acceptable but inevitable. People are imperfect.

Of course there are groups that are outright bigoted, and state their case as such. There's little ambiguity with the KKK or the Black Panthers, for instance. They are outwardly bigoted.

But now, I brought up the Tea Party because many think they are a bigoted group. I'm a Tea Partier and I'm not bigoted against anyone, except freedom hating Marxists. So I guess I am a bigot in that respect. But I don't care.

I hate bigots. heh.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:42 AM   #207
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Bear in mind that Obama did not make nor endorse that ad, and isn't allowed to talk or coordinate with the people who did.
Fair point.
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:22 PM   #209
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It may be. I'd rather look at it as not so much acceptable but inevitable. People are imperfect.

Of course there are groups that are outright bigoted, and state their case as such. There's little ambiguity with the KKK or the Black Panthers, for instance. They are outwardly bigoted.

But now, I brought up the Tea Party because many think they are a bigoted group. I'm a Tea Partier and I'm not bigoted against anyone, except freedom hating Marxists. So I guess I am a bigot in that respect. But I don't care.

I hate bigots. heh.
Fair enough and I appreciate your honesty.
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