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Old 08-21-2012, 02:28 PM  
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Predict When Israel Strikes Iran

My guess is September 5, 2012.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:39 PM   #31
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I must have missed who says that our needs are always the same.
AIPAC.

The Likud.

The Republican Party.

Christian conservatives.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:42 PM   #32
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I think necessity arrives when Osama bin Laden II runs Iran.

Until then, they are currently preservationist. They are developing nuclear weaponry, or at least trying to, for leverage in the region and in the world. Not for an attack that would obliterate them.
You don't think that an Iranian first strike could preclude the possibility of an Israeli response?
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:43 PM   #33
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You don't think that an Iranian first strike could preclude the possibility of an Israeli response?
Iran's off the map the second it launches a nuke. Period.

Either through Israel, or through us.

They ain't touching the red button.

They'll just say they'll do it in order for political leverage. They want to become Pakistan, minus the face-value respect for the will of their people.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:43 PM   #34
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AIPAC.

The Likud.

The Republican Party.

Christian conservatives.
Sorry, I think you are throwing around some rather vague and specious generalizations. Are those groups better "friends" than say most Democrats? Sure. But they aren't always in lock-step with Israel.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:45 PM   #35
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Sorry, I think you are throwing around some rather vague and specious generalizations. Are those groups better "friends" than say most Democrats? Sure. But they aren't always in lock-step with Israel.
I fail to see any meaningful light between any of those four bodies and Israel. (Well, three bodies, since the Likud actually run Israel right now.)

... other than the whole Jesus Christ thing.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:45 PM   #36
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Iran's off the map the second it launches a nuke. Period.
Pretty much. Guerrilla warfare is what beats superpowers anyway. In fact Saddam had a guerrilla war planned if our forces went beyond Kuwait. Our generals knew that'd be a "tar pit" and something to do with not going further.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:45 PM   #37
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Iran's off the map the second it launches a nuke. Period.

Either through Israel, or through us.

They ain't touching the red button.

They'll just say they'll do it in order for political leverage. They want to become Pakistan.
We wouldn't attack Iran with nuclear weapons if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weapons.

Therefore, you need to answer my previous question if you want to continue this line of discourse.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:46 PM   #38
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I fail to see any meaningful light between any of those four bodies and Israel. (Well, three bodies, since the Likud actually run Israel right now.)

... other than the whole Jesus Christ thing.
Then you have blinders on.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:47 PM   #39
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We wouldn't attack Iran with nuclear weapons if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weapons.
We wouldn't have to.

We have enough conventional firepower for regime change.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:47 PM   #40
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Then you have blinders on.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:48 PM   #41
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We wouldn't attack Iran with nuclear weapons if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weapons.
How can you be so sure?
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:49 PM   #42
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We wouldn't have to.

We have enough conventional firepower for regime change.
Off the map usually implies nuclear weapons, but okay. I'm not of the opinion that the crazies presently running Iran would really give a crap. They got the Jews, that's what matters. That's actually the scenario that concerns me the most.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:51 PM   #44
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My ears are wide open for an education.
I doubt it, or you wouldn't have wrote that. I'm specifically referring to the GOP. If you really believe that, I think we are done.
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Off the map usually implies nuclear weapons, but okay.
Fair enough.

Hopefully you understand me better now, then.

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I'm not of the opinion that the crazies presently running Iran would really give a crap. They got the Jews, that's what matters. That's actually the scenario that concerns me the most.
The current crazies care about attaining and consolidating power among all other things. They are not Osama Bin Laden II.
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