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Old 05-31-2006, 08:29 AM  
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Lance Armstrong cleared of doping charges (and now drops the fight)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes

The French Lose Again.

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - Independent Dutch investigators cleared Lance Armstrong of doping in the 1999 Tour de France on Wednesday, and blamed anti-doping authorities for misconduct in dealing with the American cyclist.

A 132-page report recommended convening a tribunal to discuss possible legal and ethical violations by the World Anti-Doping Agency and to consider "appropriate sanctions to remedy the violations."

The French sports daily L'Equipe reported in August that six of Armstrong's urine samples from 1999, when he won the first of his record seven-straight Tour titles, came back positive for the endurance-boosting hormone EPO when they were retested in 2004.

Armstrong has repeatedly denied using banned substances.

The International Cycling Union appointed Dutch lawyer Emile Vrijman last October to investigate the handling of urine tests from the 1999 Tour by the French national anti-doping laboratory, known by its French acronym LNDD.

Vrijman said Wednesday his report "exonerates Lance Armstrong completely with respect to alleged use of doping in the 1999 Tour de France."

The report also said the UCI had not damaged Armstrong by releasing doping control forms to the French newspaper.

The report said WADA and the LNDD may have "behaved in ways that are completely inconsistent with the rules and regulations of international anti-doping control testing," and may also have been against the law.

Vrijman, who headed the Dutch anti-doping agency for 10 years and later defended athletes accused of doping, worked on the report with Adriaan van der Veen, a scientist with the Dutch Metrology Laboratory.

EPO, or erythropoietin, is a synthetic hormone that boosts the oxygen-carrying capacity of the blood.

Testing for EPO only began in 2001.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:23 PM   #106
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Other than enjoying how much he pissed off the Frogs, I never gave a crap about Armstrong or cycling one way or another.
Nobody does. Once Lance got done hammering down the frenchies America went back to not knowing anything about it.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:23 PM   #107
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You mean a list of cyclists who DID get positives, were banned, denied it and then came clean? You consider those to be reliable witnesses?


Here is an interesting read from JV. Who did not get busted, banned or denied.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/op...pagewanted=all
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:24 PM   #108
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Nobody does. Once Lance got done hammering down the frenchies America went back to not knowing anything about it.
Tejay van Garderen might end up being Lance 2.0
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:27 PM   #109
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Deadspin has a decent synopsis of it up now. The Inner Ring posted a very good article on it earlier today.

Obviously no one knows exactly what the evidence USADA claims they have is. A lot of what is thought to be the evidence is outlined in both those articles (they weren't technically failed tests, but they are samples consistent with doping). All of it will come out eventually as most of (if not all, I'm not sure, haven't been following EVERYONE involved in the conspiracy accusation) the rest implicated have already agreed to arbitration.

Obviously none of this is enough to make a judgement at this point. The rejection of arbitration, especially after a Texas judge ruled against him on it, throws fuel on the circumstantial/heresy fire. IMO, his biggest mistake in general was the association with Michele Ferrari...

Anyway, things will get much clearer once the other arbitration hearings start. Especially if those "10 plus" witnesses turn out to be who they're rumored to be.
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Tejay van Garderen might end up being Lance 2.0
I have high hopes for that kid. Imagine if he wasn't saddled with Cadel this last Tour!

I however don't wish him to be Lance 2.0. Why insult the kid.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:29 PM   #111
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Here is an interesting read from JV. Who did not get busted, banned or denied.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/op...pagewanted=all
Is he among those riders who claim to have seen Armstrong dope?
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Tejay van Garderen might end up being Lance 2.0
Is he American?
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Tejay van Garderen might end up being Lance 2.0
There are a few young US riders who are showing promise.

I've never been a Lance fan, but this is one thing I'm grateful to him for.
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Is he among those riders who claim to have seen Armstrong dope?
It's rumored that he's among the witnesses in the USADA case.
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I have high hopes for that kid. Imagine if he wasn't saddled with Cadel this last Tour!

I however don't wish him to be Lance 2.0. Why insult the kid.
Yeah, I think he could have pulled it off.
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Is he American?
Yes.
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It's rumored that he's among the witnesses in the USADA case.
I love rumors. Vaughters was never Lance's teammate, right?
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I love rumors. Vaughters was never Lance's teammate, right?
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Yes.
Alright then. Thanks for the heads-up. I'm rooting for van Garderen to ruffle the panties of the Frogs one day.
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Is he among those riders who claim to have seen Armstrong dope?
Most likely.

Others thought to include,

George Hincapie
Levi Leipheimer
Christian Vande Velde
David Zabriskie
Floyd Landis
Tyler Hamilton

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