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Old 08-23-2012, 09:43 PM  
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Rock Center with Brian Williams Doing a Hatchet Job on Mormonism...

How ****ing transparent can the mainstream media be? They constantly run interference for Hussein, and savage anyone who dares speak against their anointed one...

I wonder when NBC or CBS or ABC will do an expose on Reverend Wright's anti-American diatribes in prime time?
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:28 PM   #121
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Watching the left dismiss Wright and BLT while going after the Mormon reminds me of how non believers who only "beleive" in God when it can be used against someone....

O's past...? who cares?
MR's past..open season!

O's church..? who cares?
MR's church? open season!


...pretty easy to discern why concessions are being made...
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:38 PM   #122
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...So I'm left envious of the organization of the Mormons, and the steadfastness of their belief system, wishing my church aspired to those ends a little more with a lot less secularization and modernity, while still avoiding those 'wacky' developments of the westward trek.
We are in agreement on the aspect of their organization. For lack of a better analogy, it's like an ant colony. It's probably not my cup of tea, but I certainly admire the LDS helping hand aspect.
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:28 PM   #123
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I live in Mesa,az
heavily mormon, area
see them as racist
tax breaks to rich
cutting education
killing anything but trickle down economics which has never worked
You know I'm just reading through some of the polital stuff in this forum trying to get some kind of fair information on both sides. And then I read your post and I wondered, has their ever been an economic policy that has ever really worked or worked for more then the short run?
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:02 PM   #124
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Watching the left dismiss Wright and BLT while going after the Mormon reminds me of how non believers who only "beleive" in God when it can be used against someone....

O's past...? who cares?
MR's past..open season!

O's church..? who cares?
MR's church? open season!


...pretty easy to discern why concessions are being made...
Wright said hateful things from the pulpit, it was covered and brought up repeatedly by most media outlets (on a loop by FOX) as if everything he said was a justification for belief by everyone in the pews.

Is it fair to bring up the fact that up until 1978 the official church position toward blacks was they were not considered "worthy" to participate in church ceremonies? Maybe not, but it hardly seems a stretch to see the correlations.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:11 AM   #125
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Extensive coverage, LOL. Where, on Fox news?

There is absolutely nothing mysterious about mormonism. Their history is intertwined with American history, it's pretty much out there for all to see, the good and the horrible, from the beginning to present day. Like I said, you're confusing it with something like scientology.
All over the media. It was a story for a solid week.

Mormonism is mysterious to most folks, I would wager. There's a reason Romney doesn't talk about it. It does genuinely believe in some strange things that run counter to the evangelical drumbeat much of this country marches to.

Caffeine is forbidden, pre-existent spirits, Missouri is their holy land, the twisted history of John Smith... People don't know jack about it.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:12 AM   #126
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The political aspects of Wright's church should have been covered more. You know, communism, rejecting the oppressive white power structure and "middle classness". I don't care about what kind of afterlife he believed in or whether or not his church wanted it's members to raise their kids in the same traditions. I'm shocked that you can't tell the difference.
You are simultaneously arguing that Wright's version of Christianity should have been covered more, while Romney's Mormonism should be covered less.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:24 AM   #127
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All over the media. It was a story for a solid week.

Mormonism is mysterious to most folks, I would wager. There's a reason Romney doesn't talk about it. It does genuinely believe in some strange things that run counter to the evangelical drumbeat much of this country marches to.

Caffeine is forbidden, pre-existent spirits, Missouri is their holy land, the twisted history of John Smith... People don't know jack about it.
Oh, a whole week. Wow. That's really significant. Dick Cheney's "**** you" got more play than that.

The rest of your post is pure nonsense. Mormonism is no more strange or mysterious than catholicism. If people are ignorant about it, it's because they've chosen to be. The reason Romney doesn't talk about it is because nobody has yet been asshole enough to throw it in his face and make him defend his chosen faith.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:50 AM   #128
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Oh, a whole week. Wow. That's really significant. Dick Cheney's "**** you" got more play than that.
Reverend Wright has 6 million google hits compared to 4 million for Dick Cheney. These are totals. If you narrow Cheney's hits to those containing some version of "go f yourself", it isn't even close. Now the internet isn't the msm, but any perceived lack of coverage of Wright by the msm is more than offset by the obsession given him by some people that post on the internet.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:57 AM   #129
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Oh, a whole week. Wow. That's really significant. Dick Cheney's "**** you" got more play than that.
I can't tell what you're arguing. Are you arguing it should have got more time? While Romney's Mormonism should get less?

How much time should Wright have received? How much time should Romney's Mormonism receive?

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The rest of your post is pure nonsense. Mormonism is no more strange or mysterious than catholicism. If people are ignorant about it, it's because they've chosen to be.
People are ignorant about Mormonism. It's not taught in anything other than college religion classes, and unless you're Mormon yourself, you have to actively educate yourself about the religion. Want to guess how many people have done that?

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The reason Romney doesn't talk about it is because nobody has yet been asshole enough to throw it in his face and make him defend his chosen faith.
Wrong again, dumbass. He was heavily criticized by his very own party in the 2008 primaries.

Unsurprisingly though, you chose not to give a shit until Scary Liberals like me bring it up.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:41 AM   #130
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You are simultaneously arguing that Wright's version of Christianity should have been covered more, while Romney's Mormonism should be covered less.
No, I just explained why you're wrong in the post you quoted.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:47 AM   #131
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Reverend Wright has 6 million google hits compared to 4 million for Dick Cheney. These are totals. If you narrow Cheney's hits to those containing some version of "go f yourself", it isn't even close. Now the internet isn't the msm, but any perceived lack of coverage of Wright by the msm is more than offset by the obsession given him by some people that post on the internet.
I'm not sure what google hits prove, but if we're going to prove anything about the 2008 campaign, we should limit our results to that time period. If we look at the year from Nov. 1, 2007 to Nov. 1, 2008, here are the results of your query:

Reverend Wright - 50,100 hits

Dick Cheney - 162,000 hits

Or alternatively...

Reverend Wright God Damn America - 6,300

Dick Cheney Go F Yourself - 12,700
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:57 AM   #132
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Old 08-26-2012, 10:38 AM   #133
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I can't tell what you're arguing. Are you arguing it should have got more time? While Romney's Mormonism should get less?

How much time should Wright have received? How much time should Romney's Mormonism receive?



People are ignorant about Mormonism. It's not taught in anything other than college religion classes, and unless you're Mormon yourself, you have to actively educate yourself about the religion. Want to guess how many people have done that?



Wrong again, dumbass. He was heavily criticized by his very own party in the 2008 primaries.

Unsurprisingly though, you chose not to give a shit until Scary Liberals like me bring it up.
Are we talking about 2008, you incredible dumbshit? Because Romney's not running against Huckabee, he's running against Obama.

I don't care about reverend wright, YOU are the one who keeps bringing that up. This is the reason you don't understand my argument, which is that Romney's religion isn't a story, no matter how badly you wish it could be. Nobody. Cares. There is no "national discussion" going on about mormonism, and there isn't going to be.
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Old 08-26-2012, 10:45 AM   #134
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Are we talking about 2008, you incredible dumbshit? Because Romney's not running against Huckabee, he's running against Obama.

I don't care about reverend wright, YOU are the one who keeps bringing that up. This is the reason you don't understand my argument, which is that Romney's religion isn't a story, no matter how badly you wish it could be. Nobody. Cares. There is no "national discussion" going on about mormonism, and there isn't going to be.
well, in some areas of small town georgia romney's mormonism is a problem...

i have relatives there who are republicans and they aren't going to vote for a mormon, preferring to just stay home...
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:55 PM   #135
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No, I just explained why you're wrong in the post you quoted.
Should Romney's Mormonism be covered less than it currently is?

Should Wright have been covered more?
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