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Old 08-23-2012, 08:43 PM  
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Rock Center with Brian Williams Doing a Hatchet Job on Mormonism...

How ****ing transparent can the mainstream media be? They constantly run interference for Hussein, and savage anyone who dares speak against their anointed one...

I wonder when NBC or CBS or ABC will do an expose on Reverend Wright's anti-American diatribes in prime time?
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:33 PM   #151
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:34 PM   #152
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Religious beliefs are a hobby of mine. I researched it independently. If you are interested I can turn you on to some of the books I have read that peaked my interest in the subject~
Sure. I'd appreciate any recommendations.

Something readable and user-friendly, please. I'm not a theological expert and I can't wade through some 1,000 page tomb that's going to require me to know a ton of stuff I don't.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:34 PM   #153
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:35 PM   #154
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Sure. I'd appreciate any recommendations.

Something readable and user-friendly, please. I'm not a theological expert and I can't wade through some 1,000 page tomb that's going to require me to know a ton of stuff I don't.
tome is a word as well.

Oh, and if you'll accept a Jack Mormon recommendation, I've found the citation below invaluable

http://rldsbooks.blogspot.com/2010/0...tion-time.html

I have them at my disposal if you have specific questions.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:35 PM   #155
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:38 PM   #156
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Krakaeur's Under the Banner of Heaven is a great read on Mormonism, provided that you understand he's really writing about the ultra fundamentalist, heretical offshoots. He does, though, also explain the mainstream chirch's history very well.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:43 PM   #157
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Sure. I'd appreciate any recommendations.

Something readable and user-friendly, please. I'm not a theological expert and I can't wade through some 1,000 page tomb that's going to require me to know a ton of stuff I don't.
I assure you if I can handle them you can lol God is not Great, The Portable Athiest are a couple by Hitchens I would recommend. Forged: Writing in the Name of God--Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are. by Bart D. Ehrman is pretty interesting although I am only a little over half way through it~
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:45 PM   #158
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The rest of your post is pure nonsense. Mormonism is no more strange or mysterious than catholicism. If people are ignorant about it, it's because they've chosen to be.
I don't think the program was a hatchet job. I think a true believer Mormon can be anything in America. There is nothing to disqualify someone from anything but there is some weird things in their beliefs beyond the undergarment thing they share with the Hassidic jews.

1. Multiple worlds with multiple Gods. They believe that God created many planets with many people and each planet has its own God. They go further to say that if you are good and special you can also become a God of your own planet.

2 Forgiveness. The Mormons believe that you can be forgiven of any sin except murder and denying the Holy Spirit. God is forgiving, until the second coming. After that, No more! You get what you get, so take care of your bad stuff now, before it is too late.


3 There are multiple heavens. There are actually three according to the Mormon doctrine. One for those that do just ok, one for those that do better than average, and one for those that are really, really good.


4. Priesthood. They believe that any worthy male can be given priesthood and have assigned duties. They did not allow this privilege to black men until 1978. Women are not allowed in the priesthood.


5. Jesus visited America. The Mormons believe that there were spiritual things taking place in America at the same time Jesus rose from the grave and visited his decuples. The belief is that he visited Bountiful, Utah.


6. Modern Revelation. The Mormons believe that the elected prophet of the time gets visits from god and gives him directions. The Mormons have a convention 2 xs per year and the prophet tells them what the big man said.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:49 PM   #159
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One thing I'd address right away, because it seems to be the first question posed to Mormons in interviews.

The 'prohibition' on caffeine and strong drinks is part of the Word of Wisdom, which is EXPRESSLY not commandment. It is considered divine revelation that serves as a recommendation for temporal [ie, in this world only] betterment. ie, these are things you should do if you wish to live this life as healthy and strong as God provides. Failure to comply doesn't damn you eternally, nor does it countenance ex-communication. It is enforced more strongly for those actively representing the church, missionaries and central leadership, for the sake of presenting a wholesome face of the religion.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:51 PM   #160
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One thing I'd address right away, because it seems to be the first question posed to Mormons in interviews.

The 'prohibition' on caffeine and strong drinks is part of the Word of Wisdom, which is EXPRESSLY not commandment. It is considered divine revelation that serves as a recommendation for temporal [ie, in this world only] betterment. ie, these are things you should do if you wish to live this life as healthy and strong as God provides. Failure to comply doesn't damn you eternally, nor does it countenance ex-communication. It is enforced more strongly for those actively representing the church, missionaries and central leadership, for the sake of presenting a wholesome face of the religion.
The point is, that can have a tangible effect on policy.

That's the whole point this is worth talking about. Not just because it's simply weird.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:59 PM   #161
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The point is, that can have a tangible effect on policy.

That's the whole point this is worth talking about. Not just because it's simply weird.
You betcha, which is why I was so proud of you for steadfastly demanding we vet Michelle Obama for all her wacky dietary beliefs.
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Old 08-26-2012, 04:00 PM   #162
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You betcha, which is why I was so proud of you for steadfastly demanding we vet Michelle Obama for all her wacky dietary beliefs.
The potential President's religious beliefs. Versus the First Lady's dietary beliefs.

Not exactly parallels, those.
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Old 08-26-2012, 04:05 PM   #164
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The potential President's religious beliefs. Versus the First Lady's dietary beliefs.

Not exactly parallels, those.
Yeah, only one is actively pursuing policy changes.

And again, it's not religious dogma, it's a temporal health recommendation.

It is truly mind-boggling that, given the strength of the push to expand Federal influence of individual diets presently going on, that you'd posit that the presidency needs a personal coffee consumption litmus test.

That is, unless disingenuousness is afoot, . . . perhaps.
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Yeah, only one is actively pursuing policy changes.
The day Michelle Obama has any evident influence over any sort of policy, is the day I start to care.

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And again, it's not religious dogma, it's a temporal health recommendation.
Those are not mutually exclusive terms.
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