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Old 08-27-2012, 10:55 PM  
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The Shocking Second HIV Epidemic Among U.S. Gay Men

The Shocking Second HIV Epidemic Among U.S. Gay Men That No One Is Talking About




Some LGBT rights groups today are focused on topics that make for an easier sell to the rest of society than HIV/AIDS.


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pop quiz, no cheating allowed: if you had to guess, would you say that HIV and AIDS rates among gay men in the United States are A) declining, B) remaining stable, or C) rising?

The correct answer is C) rising, at an alarming 8% per year . HIV incidence -- that is, the proportion of a population infected -- among gay men in the United States rises by that amount every year since at least 2001. Overall, this incidence, at 15.4% cumulatively, is just slightly lower than the incidence among gay men in Sub -Saharan Africa . And thereís a good case to be made that the real numbers are actually higher; for instance, we know theyíre higher in some major metropolitan areas, where the incidence among MSM (men who have sex with men) is oneinfive. In San Francisco, it may be ashighasoneinfour.

Overall, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that between 400,000 and 500,000 gaymen in the United States carried the virus in 2009, the most recent year for which data are available. Chillingly, gay and bisexual men are the only demographic to experienceariseinHIVinfection rates.

These are astonishing facts. The AIDS epidemic is now over three decades old and has taken over 600,000 lives in the U.S. alone. Thatís more casualties than were seen in the entire Civil War. Itís also noteworthy that new infections in the U.S. are numerically stable overall, at roughly 50,000 a year over the last decade or so -- a number seemingly impervious to public or private prevention efforts.

Considering the carnage AIDS has inflicted on gay men in particular, itís urgent that we examine what, if anything, can be done to save lives and to prevent the widespread damage of another generation -- todayís young men. The fewer than 1% of Americans who are gay or bisexual men between the ages of 13 and 29 comprise 27% of new infections.

TIMEHealthland describes the stakes in stark terms:


Public health experts have been concerned about the rising rates among MSM for years now, viewing the current epidemic as the second wave ó the first having occurred in the 1980s. Todayís infections, they say, are affecting a new generation of men who didnít live through the initial devastation of AIDSí early days, when there were no drug treatments and a diagnosis was a death sentence. Public health messages about safe sex practices and testing targeted to gay men have waned in the intervening years, and now, some experts say, a new generation of at-risk men have to be educated about the disease.

There is no single reason why HIV rates have been rising again among gay men for at least a decade, or one tool that could hinder the process. The best we can do is identify contributing factors (with limited hard data), consider approaches to reach vulnerable demographics and help change behaviors.

Effective HIV therapy has been around since 1996, in the form of HAART (Highly Active Antiretroviral Therapy) drugs. These drugs reduced mortality rates, previously near 100%, by 50% to 80%, and gave HIV patients a new lease on life.

An unintended side effect was that the drugs also reduced the visibility of the disease within the gay community. The ďgay ghettosĒ of large cities were no longer the sole mournful province of the walking dead. The sense of urgency around the epidemic began to fade, while indicatorsofunprotectedsex, specifically the incidence of other sexually transmitted diseases, began to rise.

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Old 08-29-2012, 11:58 AM   #31
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:15 PM   #33
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The women whom I am trying to get to flash their tits, blow me, and take it up the 5-hole, obviously. 80% of the things I say currently are in attempts at this anyway. What's another 20%?
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:19 PM   #34
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:22 PM   #35
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Really, do you think that Gays are going to honor, cherish, and remain monogomous to thier partners in a higher percentage than most straights?

I highly, and objectively doubt it. Therefore, the odds of at least one of them flying off the licentious rail and getting some of that bath house action is at least equal to a cheating straight getting some. I am merely looking at this as a mathemetician. You cannot convince me, that given the diseases propensity to be transmitted by blood contact with a fresh wound, that gay men are not more at risk based on how they like to take their sex..
Well we donít set the bar very high but, being male I would expect that gay men would be more likely than a heterosexual couples to have a partner stray because, we men are pretty much a pack of sluts. Not exacly news to most of us. Conversely a couple of Gay women I would probably guess their percentage of infidelity would be lower than that of a hetero couple for the same reason

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You are also assuming, that gays will be perfectly honorable with their marrying practices. Suppose your young gay buddy comes down with HIV, and you are chatting it up at the bar. You are covered with great group coverage at your big corporate job. Solution!!! Eureka!!! Let's get married!, then you can get the coverage you need to fight it. ..
I do not perceive them to be any more honorable than any other couple and would assume it happen in a similar percentage as can and does happen now. You know with your Friend girl that has Cancer.



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Not saying that there would be anything wrong with a rational, self serving indidual doing what they need to do to survive, it is only human, but from a mathematical standpoint, you are making a lot of assumptions about human beings that I find un credible to apply to the population at large, therefore, I can conclude with a great deal of certainty, that it is a "FACT", that engaging in high risk sexual behavior, inreases the health care costs of society. Gee, don't you want me or someone like me as Secretary of HHS, implementing Obamacare??? Big govt. rocks dude.


Nothing to disagree with here except that if Homosexuals were allowed to marry. More would likely be monogamous than they are now, thus lowing the number of people exposed to HIV and more in theory would have health to care diagnose and treat it also lowing the exposure of others. As I have often said, Uncle Sam really should not be in the Marriage business in the first place but, if they just canít keep their big nose out of it, they are obligated not to be discriminatory in their meddling.
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The women whom I am trying to get to flash their tits, blow me, and take it up the 5-hole, obviously. 80% of the things I say currently are in attempts at this anyway. What's another 20%?
As long as you get to silence the likes of me? So much hate, and intolerance, that you would give up your freedom, for the pleasure of shutting up someone you disagree with.

I don't know if you are ignorant or stupid. Please, don't dishonor all those who have paid such a high price, for you and I to have this debate.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:27 PM   #38
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Well we donít set the bar very high but, being male I would expect that gay men would be more likely than a heterosexual couples to have a partner stray because, we men are pretty much a pack of sluts. Not exacly news to most of us. Conversely a couple of Gay women I would probably guess their percentage of infidelity would be lower than that of a hetero couple for the same reason



I do not perceive them to be any more honorable than any other couple and would assume it happen in a similar percentage as can and does happen now. You know with your Friend girl that has Cancer.







Nothing to disagree with here except that if Homosexuals were allowed to marry. More would likely be monogamous than they are now, thus lowing the number of people exposed to HIV and more in theory would have health to care diagnose and treat it also lowing the exposure of others. As I have often said, Uncle Sam really should not be in the Marriage business in the first place but, if they just canít keep their big nose out of it, they are obligated not to be discriminatory in their meddling.
Certainly all valid rebuttals. Interesting discussion. Thanks.
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It is bullshit for anyone to give ANY unsuspecting partner AIDS regardless of gender or preference.

I could be wrong, but there seems to be a lot of anger towards gays, in this post. I don't pass by DC all that often so this may be something I didn't know about you or I am completely misreading.


You are not misreading. But to be fair, his irrational anger towards others also extends to anyone with a skin tone other than 'white.' He also doesn't seem to care for people smarter than him, so its really a very small group that he finds acceptable--white and dumber than him--although there are many to be found on this board.
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