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Old 06-07-2012, 12:51 PM  
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Justice League hopes to follow the Avengers success

‘Justice League’ movie hopes to finally bring Batman and together on screen

If teaming up worked for Iron Man, Thor and The Hulk, it has to work for Batman, , and Wonder Woman, right?

Warner Bros. Pictures seems to think so, as Variety reported yesterday that the studio has hired a new writer to bring DC Comics' "Justice League" to the big screen. Just as "The Avengers" assembled the biggest heroes from Marvel Comics, "Justice League" would see DC's iconic characters joining forces to save the world. (DC Comics is a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment.) The fact that "The Avengers" is now the third highest-grossing film of all time with $1.3 billion worldwide seems to have reignited the fire to get the other legendary superhero team up on movie screens.
[Related: Christian Bale gets emotional remembering Heath Ledger]

Variety's report states that Will Beall, who wrote the upcoming "Gangster Squad" (starring Ryan Gosling and Josh Brolin) for Warner Bros., has been hired to take on the screenplay. Beall previously wrote for TV's "Castle," but he has also been announced as the writer for new movie versions of "Logan's Run" and "Lethal Weapon 5."

While interest in a "Justice League" movie has certainly been rekindled by the record-breaking success of "The Avengers," the project has been in the works for several years. Director George Miller ("Mad Max," "Happy Feet") was hired for the film in the fall of 2007, with production scheduled to begin the next year for a planned 2009 release.

The original plan was to have a completely fresh cast of actors take on the comic book roles, separate from any existing franchise. Unlike "The Avengers," where the original stars returned, this would have a different cast (so no Christian Bale as Batman). At the time, Armie Hammer ("The Social Network") was attached to play Batman, with D.J. Cotrona as , Adam Brody as the Flash, and Megan Gale as Wonder Woman.


The Writer's Guild strike in late 2007 put a halt to the project, however. The production went into an indefinite hiatus, with George Miller moving on to a new "Mad Max" reboot, which is scheduled to start filming soon. In the intervening years, Warner Bros. released the disappointing "Green Lantern," with "The Dark Knight Rises" coming this summer and the new film "The Man of Steel" slated for next June.

That wasn't the first time Warner Bros. tried and failed to get DC's heaviest hitters together in one movie. In the early 2000s, the studio developed "Batman Vs. ," which would have pitted the two heroes against each other (though in the end they would team up to take on Lex Luthor). Josh Hartnett was rumored for , with Colin Farrell considered for Batman. But that was eventually shelved in favor of Christopher Nolan's "Batman Begins."

Currently, there isn't a director, cast or release date for "Justice League," but summer of 2014 seems like it would be the earliest we could expect to see it. There are also a host of individual DC superhero movies in development, including the Flash, Wonder Woman, and Lobo.

It's also unclear if Warner Bros. still plans to keep the "Justice League" as a separate continuity from the standalone movies, or integrate them the way Marvel built up to "The Avengers." When Joss Whedon, the director of "The Avengers" was asked if he had any advice for the people making "Justice League," he jokingly answered, "Call me." He followed it by saying that it's harder to bring DC characters to the screen than Marvel since they are "from an old, bygone era" where heroes were less flawed and grounded. And Whedon would know, since he tried to bring "Wonder Woman" to the screen in another project that stalled out several years ago.

UPDATE: Mark Millar, the writer who created the comic books the inspired the movies "Wanted" and "Kick-Ass," posted on his official website MillarWorld.tv that someone he knows is friends with screenwriter Will Beall and got a peek at the unfinished "Justice League" script. Millar reported that the new take on the movie is "Very real-world and not at all what you might expect." He said Beall began working on the script before "The Avengers" hit theaters, and that the "tidbits I heard sound quite dark and mature, which isn't what I expected."


Sounds like a pretty lightweight cast they had planned. That isn't going to get anybody excited. The Wonder Woman they had planned has an acting resume of three forgettable minor movies in nine years.
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Old 08-31-2012, 02:20 PM   #151
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I feel like DC characters are far more powerful than Marvel, but Marvel's character depth is better.

The Justice League would stomp the Avengers.
I don't see that at all.
For shits and giggles...

Let's put a starting lineup together for both JL and the A's.
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Old 08-31-2012, 02:56 PM   #152
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For the JLA:
I don't think anyone would deny , Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman as core members.
Martian Manhunter and Hawkman were members for a long time, but are not now.
Cyborg is a current member.

The original Avengers were Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Ant-Man/Giant-Man (Hank Pym) and Wasp.
Hulk leaves in the second issue, but is on the team in the movie.
Captain America joins in the fourth issue.
Hawkeye and Black Widow join later, and are in the movie.
The current team in the comics is Captain America, Iron Man, Red Hulk, Hawkeye, Vision, Spider-Woman, and Quake.

As "classic" line-ups, which I think most people identify with the most, I went with:

, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman
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Thor, Hulk, Captain America, Iron Man, Hank Pym, and Wasp.
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Old 08-31-2012, 03:37 PM   #153
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Oh, no. wouldn't match up with Hulk; he'd match up with Thor, who would instantly overpower anyone else in the JLA, and he'd be lucky to get a tie. (Thor is a lot more powerful in the comic books than he is in the movies, and he's magical, which would give a big problem.)

Batman and Captain America are as evenly matched as any two are, and so basically negate each other. Flash would not beat Iron Man very easily but I could see him winning eventually, but then you've got Hulk vs. Wonder Woman. Either way, there's still the Green Lantern problem, so yeah. Poor, poor, tiny insect-themed Avengers.

And Martian Manhunter's not in the JLA right now. He would make a big difference, but if you open it up to past (or future) members, then it just gets a lot messier.

I can't believe I'm arguing this. Hello again, teenage years, how've you been?
Wonder Woman is a lot stronger than you think, not up to Hulk standards, but certainly up to Thor. I could also see JLA using Flash to wear down the Hulk. He certainly wouldn't be able to hurt him. As you say, Green Lantern is a match up problem for the Avengers.
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Old 08-31-2012, 03:41 PM   #154
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Why do people have such a problem with this? I admit they went a little overboard in TDK, but it wasn't bothersome to me. They toned it down a little in TDKR.
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Old 08-31-2012, 03:59 PM   #155
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Oh, no. wouldn't match up with Hulk; he'd match up with Thor, who would instantly overpower anyone else in the JLA, and he'd be lucky to get a tie. (Thor is a lot more powerful in the comic books than he is in the movies, and he's magical, which would give a big problem.)

Batman and Captain America are as evenly matched as any two are, and so basically negate each other. Flash would not beat Iron Man very easily but I could see him winning eventually, but then you've got Hulk vs. Wonder Woman. Either way, there's still the Green Lantern problem, so yeah. Poor, poor, tiny insect-themed Avengers.
If you really think Iron Man vs Flash is even close you need to think about how fast the speed of light is. Not to mention the fact that Flash can vibrate through matter and make it explode. Wonder Woman is more powerful than you think too, her power level is basically almost- plus she's a much more skilled fighter. I'd say Thor is slightly ahead of Wonder Woman one-on-one, but she's more than powerful enough to keep Thor busy long enough for to deal with the Hulk.

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For the JLA:
As "classic" line-ups, which I think most people identify with the most, I went with:

, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman
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Thor, Hulk, Captain America, Iron Man, Hank Pym, and Wasp.
Even though Hulk was an original member of the Avengers, he has rarely been a member since then. I know people make the association now because of the movie, but for a classic comic lineup I don't think he qualifies. My classic lineup would be Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Pym, Wasp, Vision, and the Scarlet Witch. That team probably also stands a better chance against the Justice League based purely on the inclusion of Scarlet Witch.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:11 PM   #156
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I included Hulk because of a) he was an original, b) the movie, and c) there is the Red Hulk on the team, who has analagous powers. If you replace him with Vision, Hawkeye, and Scarlet Witch, that makes the teams unbalanced - but if that's not a problem, I have no problem with these.

I would suggest also adding Quicksilver, but I wouldn't want Flash hurting himself laughing at how slow the Avengers' "speedster" is.
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I don't see that at all.
For shits and giggles...

Let's put a starting lineup together for both JL and the A's.
That's just the way I see it. I don't read the comics much so that's just based on what I've read and watched.

The problem with DC is that all the heavy hitters have ridiculous amounts of strength, speed, invulnerability and nanosecond reaction time. The only ones in Marvel (without getting into the Beyonder and Thanos-types) that have similar powers to guys like , Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, etc. are Silver Surfer and Thor.

Then again, I feel like Marvel has a lot more magical beings and reality warpers to even things out. People like the Scarlet Witch and Franklin Richards can change entire universes with a thought so there's that to consider. I'm not sure; I guess I'm just thinking mainly about the most popular characters. A lot of Marvel's popular characters only handle city-wide threats (Spider-Man, Daredevil, Wolverine). It usually takes a team of them to combat anything/anyone substantial (X-Men, Fantastic Four, Avengers) while the DC characters I mentioned could handle global threats singlehandedly.

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, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman
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Thor, Hulk, Captain America, Iron Man, Hank Pym, and Wasp.
I think it would break down like this:

> Hulk. It would be a good fight since the Hulk gets stronger the longer the fight lasts and his healing factor would ensure that to happen. In the end, 's versatility and speed advantage would give him the victory.

Wonder Woman < Thor. Another good fight here. WW is basically just a notch below with that indestructible lasso and bracelets as weapons. I think Thor would edge her out in the end but it wouldn't be easy.

Green Lantern > Iron Man. The GL ring is one of the most powerful weapons in either universe. IM's suit is nice, but it wouldn't hold up nor be able to penetrate and of the GL constructs.

Batman = Captain America. Probably the most evenly matched fight here. Personally I think Cap's superior physical abilities and the shield would give him the edge over Batman's gadgets; but I'll call it a wash. It doesn't matter either way, once one defeated the other he'd be stomped immediately by pretty much anyone else on the field.

The Flash + Aquaman >>>>>>>>>>>> Ant Man + Wasp. Seriously. I'm not even going to discuss this.
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So what would an Avengers team that could beat the Justice League look like? Drawing only from characters that have been Avengers (so no Silver Surfer) and ignoring their current living/dead status, I'd say the Sentry, Thor, Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, Hulk, Red Hulk, and maybe Invisible Woman. There's a rumor that Xavier will be on an Avengers team after Avengers vs X-Men wraps up, so if that happens he'd definitely be on there.
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He's actually fascinating, as long as they leave out Robin. Making Batman a father figure makes him a lot less interesting.
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He's actually fascinating, as long as they leave out Robin. Making Batman a father figure makes him a lot less interesting.
The reason Batman is lame and boring as shit to me is his seemingly endless supply of corny ass gadgets in his belt. No matter the situation, he will have the right gadget at the time. How could he possibly anticipate what gadgets he will need lol???

If a giant alien dildo robot that shoots lasers attacked him, rest assured that ****er will have a bottle of anti-alien dildo robot that shoots lasers spray. Batman is shit. Boring. Lame.
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The reason Batman is lame and boring as shit to me is his seemingly endless supply of corny ass gadgets in his belt. No matter the situation, he will have the right gadget at the time. How could he possibly anticipate what gadgets he will need lol???

If a giant alien dildo robot that shoots lasers attacked him, rest assured that ****er will have a bottle of anti-alien dildo robot that shoots lasers spray. Batman is shit. Boring. Lame.




But to be fair, Batman was camped up all to hell back in the 60's and 70's. He's way more of a badass these days.
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