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Old 09-02-2012, 04:39 PM  
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ROn Paul Might Run 3rd Party

I spoke with Dr. Paul this afternoon about continuing the fight by running on a third party ticket. I want to share what he said to me and let you know what needs to be done to make this happen. It can happen, but it's going to take some work. If you are willing to support this effort, please share this event and call in:


Mitt Romney won't stand a chance at being president if RP runs 3rd party

http://www.dailypaul.com/252900/upda...sident+2012%29



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Old 09-03-2012, 09:36 AM   #106
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Normally I would not reply to a post after so many pages in a thread, but she was being a snitty know-it-all, so I felt compelled to point out her error.
Exactly what you were doing Mr. Pot. Look at how you addressed him.
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Old 09-03-2012, 09:41 AM   #107
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It's alot worse than we think:

First, the deficit is vastly worse than the movie portrays. The movie sticks with the nonissue: the on-budget debt of $15 trillion, which is chump change, while never mentioning the central problem: the $222 trillion present value of the unfunded liabilities of the off-budget deficit, meaning the deficits of politically sacrosanct Social Security and Medicare. This is the heart of the federal government's highly entertaining Punch and Judy show over the deficit, with Paul Ryan as Punch and Obama cross-dressing as Judy.



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Yes it is ! BUT until we get back to "BASE-LINE BUDGETING"(using REAL numbers-that Nixon eliminated in the early 70's giving Dems and open checkbook) our debt will never be dealt with regardless of spending less.
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Old 09-03-2012, 09:56 AM   #108
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I would rather vote for Ron Paul and lose than vote for Romney and win.
That's not surprising at all. A lot of Ron Paul supporters are very comfortable with losing.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:04 AM   #109
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Not a chance, dude is old as ****, even dumber than he is old, has no nuts and has to keep up on his Lithium treatments.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:07 AM   #110
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That's not surprising at all. A lot of Ron Paul supporters are very comfortable with losing.
Except it's not losing. It's blowback. Have to have some way to show that blowback exists.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:07 AM   #111
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also it just might be a good thing to hurry up and tank this country now rather than delaying it as long as possible. I believe it was Thomas Paine that said, "If bad must come, let it be in my day, so that my children may know peace."
The current path of entitlements is un-sustainable, the takers out-number the givers. Nothing short of drastic measures will reverse that. Too many people have become dependent on government subsidies. The rest have become apathetic or complacent.
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When in world history has a country ever tanked it's own freedoms and liberties and ever regained them back ??? Hell, when has a country truly ever had what our country has had in liberties and freedoms not too mention the wealth and advanced culture, LOST them and then regained them ???

Hasn't happened and it won't happen. Once their gone they are gone for good and the reason why is to your point about apathy(laziness of wanting the state to give them so-called security as opposed to self-reliance. Self-reliance is waaaaaaaay too hard for a fat and happy deadbeat society that is almost 50% there. "Shit, why work if you don't have to and supposedly still have damn near the same socioeconomic level of living? And that's the dirty little lie that those who buy into the 'apathy - the rich guy owes me, "Frankie Fungus" - bullshit argument' that in reality the 'poor deadbeats' get truly poorer and more of the middle class join the deadbeat class not wanting or deserving to be poor. This is what truly happens when you buy into the Marxist class warfare argument. Nowhere in world history has 'socialism' EVER worked for ALL in a society.

So to say we need to tank the country ASAP is just truly naive thinking.

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Old 09-03-2012, 10:08 AM   #112
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Not a chance, dude is old as ****, even dumber than he is old, has no nuts and has to keep up on his Lithium treatments.
Why are you voting Obama this Nov?
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:10 AM   #113
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When in world history has a country ever tanked it's own freedoms and liberties and ever regained them back ???
Seriously, the GOP passed the Patriot Act and have cost us many freedoms. Obama, of course, will run against Bush, by being Bush. Read some of Tea Party conservative's Gary North on why today's conservatives think it's just the apparent left that is costing us our freedoms. He parses D'Souza movie on Obama and shows where it's irrelevant. Left and right are more irrelevant today than ever.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:11 AM   #114
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FYI: Most of them honestly believe that Paul would win a one on one matchup with Obama.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:14 AM   #115
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FYI: Most of them honestly believe that Paul would win a one on one matchup with Obama.
No, it's what two major polls showed albeit, if he ran under the Republican ticket. Of all the Republican candidates, he lagged behind Obama the least. Later in a similar poll Paul was in a statistical tie with Romney on it.

On an Independent ticket the game changes and it's harder. On the Libertarian ticket, he likely would not win as they don't have broad appeal. On either ticket he would do damage to you traitors.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:15 AM   #116
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Seriously, the GOP passed the Patriot Act and have cost us many freedoms. Obama, of course, will run against Bush, by being Bush. Read some of Tea Party conservative's Gary North on why today's conservatives think it's just the apparent left that is costing us our freedoms. He parses D'Souza movie on Obama and shows where it's irrelevant. Left and right are more irrelevant today than ever.
No I get that, it's not the true conservatives doing this. It's Progressive LIBS and RINOs doing this.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:16 AM   #117
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No I get that, it's not the true conservatives doing this. It's Progressive LIBS and RINOs doing this.
Okay. Now, I think those who were freaking out in this thread, attacking Paul's credibility with the worst of it calling him "corrupt" need to calm down until it's a fact that Paul will agree to this move calling him to run as a 3P. It just drives more Paul supporters away from possibly considering Mitt in the end. This is what the qabban types don't realize.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:27 AM   #118
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When in world history has a country ever tanked it's own freedoms and liberties and ever regained them back ???
Why would we tank our freedoms and liberties? While that is certainly a possible outcome it is not the only possible outcome.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:02 AM   #119
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Why would we tank our freedoms and liberties? While that is certainly a possible outcome it is not the only possible outcome.
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The question should be: "Why are we tanking our freedoms and liberties?"
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:08 AM   #120
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Except it's not losing. It's blowback. Have to have some way to show that blowback exists.
So you people all secretly endorse Obama. Interesting.
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