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Old 09-05-2012, 03:45 PM  
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How it feel to boo god and Jerusalem. You folks are cray cray.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:02 PM   #46
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You brought up puppies for some reason, not I.

Yes, I think that it's reasonable to assume that people who want to remove something from the party platform are now anti-that thing, don't you? At least to the extent that they don't want it as part of the party's platform. I don't even think that is arguable.
First of all, I don't think it's reasonable to think that the many boos mean the vast majority of the DNC is anti-God.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:02 PM   #47
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You brought up puppies for some reason, not I.

Yes, I think that it's reasonable to assume that people who want to remove something from the party platform are now anti-that thing, don't you? At least to the extent that they don't want it as part of the party's platform. I don't even think that is arguable.
No, not necessarily. They may want to be neutral on that thing—not necessarily anti.
Yeah, I think I nailed your mindset down earlier today. You're a black and white kinda guy. Even when there's a possible third or fourth reason for something. No shades of gray.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:03 PM   #48
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The last sentence is inclusive of both. Sorry, I thought that was obvious.
No, it's not obvious that "a majority of DNC delegates not wanting the [God and or Jerusalem] re-inserted because their level of support for both isn't at the level where they would mind it" also necessarily means they are anti-God.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:06 PM   #49
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First of all, I don't think it's reasonable to think that the many boos mean the vast majority of the DNC is anti-God.
How about not "pro-God" or "pro-Israel"? Would that make you happy?
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:08 PM   #50
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How about not "pro-God" or "pro-Israel"? Would that make you happy?
Well, let's face it the OP questioned them on the Jerusalem point.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:08 PM   #51
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How about not "pro-God" or "pro-Israel"? Would that make you happy?
No, I still don't think it's reasonable to think that the boos show that the vast majority of the DNP is not pro-God or pro-Israel.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:09 PM   #52
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So Donger, can someone be pro-Israel but think Jerusalem should be an international city?
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:22 PM   #53
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No, I still don't think it's reasonable to think that the boos show that the vast majority of the DNP is not pro-God or pro-Israel.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:23 PM   #54
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The logical conclusion to you. It's obvious you're biased, so I tell you what. I'll concede that point when you have a significant delegates who come out and so that.


God and Israel were not included in the platform.
They took an oral vote.
That vote appeared to be 50-50, and was required to be done 3 times.
The vote was recorded as 2/3 which was wrong.
The people booed.

With those premises you came to the conclusion that they aren't in favor of God or pro-Israel.

That's a large jump, just to support your conclusion.
And the Democrats wonder why the Republicans are so concerned about possible voter fraud. They can't even avoid committing voter fraud in their own convention on national television.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:28 PM   #55
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And the Democrats wonder why the Republicans are so concerned about possible voter fraud. They can't even avoid committing voter fraud in their own convention on national television.
No, it's because the Republicans are accusing them of what they do. Currently, they are trying to get Johnson off some state ballots.

This is just one state they're doing it.

2012/08/republicans-trying-to-boot-gary-johnson-from-pennsylvania-ballot/

Yeah, Republicans don't cheat.
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Here's more on Republicans trying to shape the election to their favor:

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In recent weeks, with the full support and legal assistance of the Republican Party, Johnson’s ballot status has been challenged in Michigan, Pennsylvania, the District of Columbia, Iowa and now Ohio.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/gop-a...on-off-ballots
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Which is the heart of the problem if one is supposed to be an honest broker in the middle east.
The Independent spot is about where it should be.
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I just want to follow your logic: Not wanting to mention God and Jerusalem in your party platform means you are anti-God and not pro-Israel?
Nobody is stupid enough to think that.
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How it feel to boo god and Jerusalem. You folks are cray cray.
This is an ignorant post. The platform cites faith numerous times. But to be fair advocacy for changing the capital to Jerusalem is simply another invitation for tragic trouble. I would rather see a platform that eliminates the 3 billion dollars in annual foreign aid eliminated until the occupation of stolen land ends. God did give them the land, but the truth is that they were disobedient and God while forgiving, did not promise they would keep it. Its one of those areas where immaturity in faith is often exposed.
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