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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:51 PM   #61
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This guy sticks his foot in his mouth every other day.
Well this was from months ago from what I understand...but it does help feed into the "all hope is lost" narrative that they're trying to create...
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:52 PM   #62
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Do you think any senior citizens on SS even realize that they're part of the "47% who don't pay income tax"? Could their Obama hate even be penetrated enough to realize that Romney is calling them people who see themselves as victims?
There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.

Not quite what he said...
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:53 PM   #63
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Regardless of what it does to his campaign, I don't have a problem with what he said. Truth hurts.
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There is nothing wrong with what he said~
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Here's the video if anyone wants to watch it:



I have zero problem with what he's saying.
You do realize 16% of the country is on SS benefits and pays no income tax right? That's about 1/3 of the 47% number that republicans like to throw around.

Do you think every old person on social security thinks of themselves as a victim and will definitely vote Obama? Does Romney even realize this?

It's just such a bizarre thing to say.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:53 PM   #64
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Vote Obama, or you are only looking to make the rich richer.

Yeah, that's a great outlook.
Who said that?
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:55 PM   #65
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You do realize 16% of the country is on SS benefits and pays no income tax right? That's about 1/3 of the 47% number that republicans like to throw around.

Do you think every old person on social security thinks of themselves as a victim and will definitely vote Obama? Does Romney even realize this?

It's just such a bizarre thing to say.
There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:55 PM   #66
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There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.
You literally didn't understand one word of what I just said did you?

Do you really feel this way about every senior citizen who is currently living off Social Security? Because they are about 1/3 of the 47% number.

Hint: most of them vote, and will vote republican. And literally none of them will realize Romney or other republicans are talking about them when they talk about the 47% who don't pay income tax. Neither will you apparently.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:56 PM   #67
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You literally didn't understand one word of what I just said did you?

Do you really feel this way about every senior citizen who is currently living off Social Security? Because they are about 1/3 of the 47% number.
He's not talking about people who don't pay income taxes. He's talking about Obama supporters. The 47% number, based on the video released, is prefaced with him saying he is talking about the base level of support that Obama is going to receive.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:59 PM   #68
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He's not talking about people who don't pay income taxes. He's talking about Obama supporters. The 47% number, based on the video released, is prefaced with him saying he is talking about the base level of support that Obama is going to receive.
What? Are you legit retarded? The 47% number is about people who don't pay income tax, and who Romney is saying see themselves as victims and will vote democrat no matter what.

Do you think it's just a coincidence that both numbers are 47%?

Your grasp on logic and the meaning of words is pretty tenuous.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:00 PM   #69
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Wow. Politics is a rough game, but this will be of deep concern to the country and NO APOLOGY will cut it. America wants to be inspired and unified. The public wants a leader they can trust and who they sense can grasp life's challenges and mold compassion into can do policy that lifts our society to greatness. Our national history is full of amazing national leaders who possessed all these lofty personal traits. Mr. Romney has none of them and there won't be a single voter in the country who will be ignorant of Mr. Romney's thinking on election day. For millionaires and billionaires say goodbye to your tax cut and the millions of dollars you tossed down the drain in a hopeless cause.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:04 PM   #70
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What? Are you legit retarded? The 47% number is about people who don't pay income tax, and who Romney is saying see themselves as victims and will vote democrat no matter what.

Do you think it's just a coincidence that both numbers are 47%?

Your grasp on logic and the meaning of words is pretty tenuous.
I like you...you make me laugh.

I'm not sure about the 47% paying or not paying any income tax (I think it's actually closer to 40%), but he's probably right that around 47% of Americans are a lost cause to his campaign just as 47% are a lost cause to Obama's.

We can only hope this is enough to get Obama elected so the next four years are as good as the last four. That's the whole point of this, isn't it? To stay on the course that has worked so well the past four years?
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:05 PM   #71
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Wow. Politics is a rough game, but this will be of deep concern to the country and NO APOLOGY will cut it. America wants to be inspired and unified. The public wants a leader they can trust and who they sense can grasp life's challenges and mold compassion into can do policy that lifts our society to greatness. Our national history is full of amazing national leaders who possessed all these lofty personal traits. Mr. Romney has none of them and there won't be a single voter in the country who will be ignorant of Mr. Romney's thinking on election day. For millionaires and billionaires say goodbye to your tax cut and the millions of dollars you tossed down the drain in a hopeless cause.
Yeah, Romney pretty much sucks as a candidate -- unfortunately we have a president who, if he is re-elected, is going to lead us to four more years like the last four years unless he radically changes course and learns that fairness is not an economic policy.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:07 PM   #72
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You do realize 16% of the country is on SS benefits and pays no income tax right? That's about 1/3 of the 47% number that republicans like to throw around.

Do you think every old person on social security thinks of themselves as a victim and will definitely vote Obama? Does Romney even realize this?

It's just such a bizarre thing to say.
Too bad those on SS aren't informed enough to know that Obamacare screws the elderly and favors the young. Despite Obama's denials it does cut Medicare if you read a non-partisan source, that has no axe to grind.
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I like you...you make me laugh.

I'm not sure about the 47% paying or not paying any income tax (I think it's actually closer to 40%), but he's probably right that around 47% of Americans are a lost cause to his campaign just as 47% are a lost cause to Obama's.

We can only hope this is enough to get Obama elected so the next four years are as good as the last four. That's the whole point of this, isn't it? To stay on the course that has worked so well the past four years?
I can't figure out if your apparent massive massive confusion on this issue is intentional or not. Either way I'm putting you on ignore because you make zero sense and my head hurts trying to unravel your word soup.
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You literally didn't understand one word of what I just said did you?

Do you really feel this way about every senior citizen who is currently living off Social Security? Because they are about 1/3 of the 47% number.

Hint: most of them vote, and will vote republican. And literally none of them will realize Romney or other republicans are talking about them when they talk about the 47% who don't pay income tax. Neither will you apparently.
Wealthy senior citizens are also on SS and I doubt they don't like Obama. I know a few....they just don't need SS and will even admit that.
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I can't figure out if your apparent massive massive confusion on this issue is intentional or not. Either way I'm putting you on ignore because you make zero sense and my head hurts trying to unravel your word soup.
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