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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:26 PM   #151
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So 2004
I love how liberals think...
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:29 PM   #152
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They dont like what he is selling. They may not like the current guy, but they think this guys plan will make it worse.

Maybe if you went to the right more as a party, that will work.

All I keep hearing is that it's a lack of a plan that is dooming this guy...
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:29 PM   #153
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With Romney you are going to get more social intrusion.
don't say anything about potential issues with social issues around Dallas Chief
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If it's effective, who are you, me, or anybody else to call it abuse? I worked with a guy back in Moberly who would shove a finger up his son's ass each time he had anything worse than a C on his report card. If he came home with 2 D's and an F, that's 3 fingers (and this was a big dude). Does that sound hideous and disgusting? Absolutely. Did the kid ever get anything worse than a C after this rule was implemented? Not a chance.

I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:30 PM   #154
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That is because you are reasonable and can think for yourself BL.

With Romney you are going to get more social intrusion.
If so, I'll be pissed and vote to remove him next time around, but I honestly don't believe that will be the case. If he can govern social issues to the approval of MA in much less dire times, he'll be fine on that front while tackling our present fiscal problems. It's certainly worth the gamble versus the certain and express aspirations of Obama regarding economic, energy and fiscal power, not in a second term unencumbered by public sentiment.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:32 PM   #155
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All I keep hearing is that it's a lack of a plan that is dooming this guy...
No, its the same plan that Bush had. How can you convince anyone outside of the bubble to say lets give George W's policies another try?
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If it's effective, who are you, me, or anybody else to call it abuse? I worked with a guy back in Moberly who would shove a finger up his son's ass each time he had anything worse than a C on his report card. If he came home with 2 D's and an F, that's 3 fingers (and this was a big dude). Does that sound hideous and disgusting? Absolutely. Did the kid ever get anything worse than a C after this rule was implemented? Not a chance.

I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:33 PM   #156
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His words suggest aspirations to the contrary.

Do you think 'the facts' are what he wanted from the outset or are everything he hoped they would be? Or is it more likely that 'the facts' have been shaped just as much by his opposition as by him?
I disagree. If he was a far-left zealot he would have advocated for medicare for all instead of a give away to the insurance companies. He certainly wouldn't have gotten rid of the public option.

If he was a far-left zealot there would no drones, no warrantless wiretaps, no troops in Afghanistan or Iraq, Bin laden would still be alive, etc etc

His actions speak of someone who is a pragmatist and who is center left.
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If so, I'll be pissed and vote to remove him next time around, but I honestly don't believe that will be the case. If he can govern social issues to the approval of MA in much less dire times, he'll be fine on that front while tackling our present fiscal problems. It's certainly worth the gamble versus the certain and express aspirations of Obama regarding economic, energy and fiscal power, not in a second term unencumbered by public sentiment.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:35 PM   #158
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No, its the same plan that Bush had. How can you convince anyone outside of the bubble to say lets give George W's policies another try?
I'd ask you AGAIN what specific policies if I wern't metaphysically assured that your sole response would be 'the ones that got us in this mess' if any response at all were forthcoming.
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I want to break down the cruelty and the inaccuracy of what Romney said. That 47 percent “who pay no income tax” has become a core issue in the campaign for Republicans. But according to the Washington Post, of those Americans who don’t pay federal income taxes, 61% pay payroll taxes, and almost a quarter are elderly. The most important point is: they all work, and most are eligible for a federal tax credit for low-wage earners that was a Republican idea, as an alternative to welfare (this is my hobby horse and I won’t ride it now, if you care you can read about it here and in my book.) Oh, and the U.S. military is apparently also counted in this number. Those parasites.

Second, obviously all 47 percent of Americans who pay no income tax are not voting for Barack Obama. Sadly, a lot of elderly white people and some of the white working class included in that 47 percent are the bedrock of the GOP base. Romney’s been using the old racially coded GOP dog whistle of railing against “welfare” (and lying about it, too) but now that he’s talking about the 47 percent of Americans who supposedly see themselves as “victims…entitled” to government support, he’s talking about mainly white people. Particularly when he rails against the “dependent,” Romney is talking about his older white base, which is dependent on Social Security and Medicare and doesn’t want either program touched. But this is why Romney has had a hard time closing the deal with white working class voters, and the video isn’t going to help.
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His words suggest aspirations to the contrary.
And Romney's words on potential social intrusions dont worry you but Obamas words do?
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:39 PM   #161
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I disagree. If he was a far-left zealot he would have advocated for medicare for all instead of a give away to the insurance companies. He certainly wouldn't have gotten rid of the public option.

If he was a far-left zealot there would no drones, no warrantless wiretaps, no troops in Afghanistan or Iraq, Bin laden would still be alive, etc etc

His actions speak of someone who is a pragmatist and who is center left.
On OBAMACare, he left its actual construction to legislative partisans, partially out of allofness, partially out of confidence they would be more attuned to what was 'doable' a that date in time and confident that starting the process was the most important step, so they could expand down the line.

On national security I don't have a lot of beef regarding those things you mention, and further and MORE IMPORTANTLY think it will be the response of ANY POTUS day one after their first Intelligence Briefing.
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If so, I'll be pissed and vote to remove him next time around, but I honestly don't believe that will be the case. If he can govern social issues to the approval of MA in much less dire times, he'll be fine on that front while tackling our present fiscal problems. It's certainly worth the gamble versus the certain and express aspirations of Obama regarding economic, energy and fiscal power, not in a second term unencumbered by public sentiment.
You realize he is already stated he is going to appoint conservative judges to get rid of Roe v Wade? Now you be for that so that might please you.

He also is going to ban porn or try to. He also wants to put a porn filter on every PC in the country. So much for freedom
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Mitt Romney’s campaign told a leading anti-pornography group that the Republican nominee will pursue and prosecute pornography if elected president.

Three months ago, well after Romney became the presumptive Republican nominee, his campaign held multiple meetings with Morality in Media, a group which describes itself as the “leading national organization opposing pornography and indecency,” according to executive director Dawn Hawkins.

She told ThinkProgress that they had met with Alex Wong, Romney’s political director and legal policy adviser, to discuss the issue of pornography and what he would do about it if elected president.

During that meeting, Wong allegedly told Morality in Media that the campaign “would pursue prosecutions” of pornography and that the issue is “important to them.” The Romney campaign met with the organization “a number of times” in the past three months, Hawkins said.
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Between paranoid concerns over losing porn or paranoid concerns over a socialist utopia . . . that's a tough call.
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And Romney's words on potential social intrusions dont worry you but Obamas words do?
Now I KNOW it's useless to ask for specifics, because there are no high profile, concentrated remarks on social intrusions like you allude to.
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I'd ask you AGAIN what specific policies if I wern't metaphysically assured that your sole response would be 'the ones that got us in this mess' if any response at all were forthcoming.
Not going there because you keep handing out opinions as facts. So lets try this.....

Why would we want to provide tax cuts heavily favored for the rich in a time of a budget crisis?

Why would we trust a man who acknowledges that he is going to create a $5 trillion deficit with his program, but trust him, he will find tax loopholes to close on the rich?
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